[laughter] mark: mr. mckieof the most respected economists in broadcast journalism, so we had to pick him out. we will take a look at that. you just called mike old. betty: you pull them out. mark: i did call him experience. i will be getting great about that in the next hour. betty: much more on the bloomberg market day. lost.oyd blankfein almost ♪ betty: welcome back to the bloomberg market day. i'm betty liu. imagine, goldman's gary cohn a differenteld job. according to a report, pimco considered him to succeed mohamed el-erian. the company was said to be working on a succession plan. working with me now is mary childs, who wrote the story. how close were they to this? >> this was an idea, not formal discussions. they did not make it a formal overture to gary. it was one of those, who is the next person to lead the firm forward. betty: did they talk to him about it? >> i think there were informal conversations, but nothing formal. did gary use this at all to his advantage at goldman? >> i don't know that, bu