mr. mcnerney of california. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 203, the gentleman from california, mr. mcnerney, and a member opposed each will control five minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from california. mr. mcnerney: madam speaker, i rise to offer an amendment to h.r. 910. let's be crystal clear about two things. the bill we are considering today, which i will call the dirty air act, is an attack on science, it's bad policy that will harm the american people. the world scientific experts overwhelmingly agree that climate change is happening, it's primarily caused by human activities and it has harmful consequences. however, despite our disagreements about the merits of h.r. 910, i am offering an amendment that i think we can all support. my amendment is proenvironment, proconsumer and probusiness to make sure that our country can continue to administer voluntary programs to reduce pollution and improve public health and address climate change. >> will the gentleman yield? mr. mcnerney: the ge

mr. mcnerney: but the statistics are sobering. according to the american lung association, asthma affects more than seven million children, more than four million of those children suffer from an asthma attack each year. asthma kills 5,000 people each year in the united states and causes 14 million missed school days annually. and treating asthma costs our country more than $20 billion a year. in fact, every day in america 40,000 people in this world shall have asthma, 11 people die from asthma. these are real children. these are real people. that's why i'm offering this simple straightforward amendment to recommit today. my proposal is a commonsense improvement that makes sure that our country preserves the ability to protect the air quality for our children and seniors. the text of the motion is clear. and explicitly says that our goal is to protect children with asthma and lung disease from the effects of air pollution. i also want to make one other point clear, just as i know that every member of this body cares about the heal

mr. mcnerney. >> well, thank you, mr. chairman. >> i yield to you five minutes. >> mr. mcnerney, i thank you for calling this hearing. i had -- i find it -- it's compelling but not too scientific, in my opinion, but i think it's good for us to examine this issue and sue how much utility can be from it and how much money should be expended to find that utility. dr. hartwig, i think you heard me say, and i you can correct me if i'm wrong, that you failed to see how knowledge of the indicators could be useful. >> well, i think that is, again, an imperical question. there is not enough research -- well, there's a lot of research on demeanor cues but as far as i know there's no study whether knowledge, for example, my expressions, for example, helps people not display them but that would be an effectively step. it would be a good first step to establish that these expressions occur reliably. countermeasures come second. >> ok. dr. hartwick -- i was going to follow-up, dr. ekman, would you agree that knowledge of those independent cadors would be useful to potential wrongdoers

mr. mcnerney. >> thank you -- >> yiedz for five minutes. >> thank you. i appreciate you calling this hearing. it's interesting. i have watched "lie to me" on occasion, and i find it, it's compelling but not too scientific in my been. but it's -- in many my opinion. it's good to examine this issue and see how much utility there can be from it and how much money should be expended to define that utility. dr. hartwig, i think i heard you say, and you can correct me if i'm wrong, that you failed to see how knowledge of the indicators could be useful. >> well, i think that is, again, an empirical question. there isn't enough research on, well, there's a lot of research on demeanor cues, but as far as i know there's no study that tests whether knowledge about, for example, microexpressions helped people not display them. but that would be a second step. it would be a good first step to establish that these expressions are occur reliably. so countermeasures come second. >> okay, thank you, dr. hartwig. i was going to follow up with you, dr. ekman, to basically

mr. mcnerney. you are recognized for five minutes. >> thank you. i appreciate you calling the hearing. it's interesting. i watched you on occasion. i find it -- it's compelling. not too scientific in my opinion. but it's good fortous examine this issue and see how much utility there can be from it and how much money should be expended to find that utility. dr. hartwig, i think i heard you say, and you can correct me if i'm wrong, that you failed to see how knowledge of the indicators could be useful? >> well it -- i think that is again an empirical question. there isn't enough research on -- well, there's a lot of research on, but as far as i know, there's no study that tests whether knowledge, for example, about the microexpressions help people not display them. that would be a second step. it could be a good first step to establish that these expressions occur reliability. >> okay . >> countermeasures come second. >> thank you. i was going to follow up. to basically say would you agree that knowledge of those indicators would also be useful to potential wrongdoers? >> we don't know.