mr. meadows: obviously, he didn't check in while we were in there. maybe that was a little bit of hyperbole -- sec. mnuchin: he did speak with him before we went on. mr. meadows: i was on the phone when we went in and i am about to call him as soon we finish. reporter: [indiscernible] they have made clear there is clearly a desire on their part to do an entire package. we have made clear that we are willing to deal with the short-term issues and pass something quickly and come back to the larger issues. we are at an impasse on that. reporter: were there certain things you were able to narrow out? is there a framework? there were things we agreed on today that we agree on. again, i want to be clear. there are still a lot of open issues, but i think it was the most constructive meeting we have had. again, until there is a deal and we get something passed for the american people, it is not done. reporter: a few days ago you mentioned [indiscernible] sec. mnuchin: again, i don't think we are going to comment on the specifics of the negotiation . it is no

mr. meadows: i don't know that i took it out of context. i was reframing it for you. >> i want to be clear that what we were trying to say is, we spent a lot of our careers working and uncovering malfeasance and members of congress and others that have broken the law. you think that breaking the law is not a big deal. mr. meadows: here's what i'm saying, you can't break the law, you shouldn't do it. y'all have done a lot of investigative reporting. i appreciate you clarifying that. but here's what i'm saying. the law the way it was originally intended never thought we would be on zoom talking to people live, that somehow we were going to be able to have this conversation from the executive building next to the white house, where we were talking about a political thing. it was really designed to stop the cronyism that either democrats or republicans tried to do on a regular basis, forcing federal employees to become their campaign team, and it is a little clear in the how, less so when it comes to the executive branch. want to switch gears a

mr. meadows: oh no, my speaking days are over. reporter: [indiscernible] mr. meadows: actually the speaker was in a meeting with i think some of her leadership staff, is what i understand. so i left a message for her. she will probably call me instead of coming around to meet up you'd if she -- to meet. if she wants to meet, i will be glad to meet with the speaker. if she wants to strike a deal with the president of the united states on behalf of the american people, the president is willing to do that, and yet at the same time, that deal needs to be based on real numbers and real issues that are urgent in terms addressedeed to be and not a partisan wish list of want to's and hope to have haves.-- hope to thanks, guys. >> the postmaster general and the chair of the board of governors testify before togress today about changes postal service operation and the impact on the upcoming election. monday, live at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span two. watch live coverage. , oremand at c-span.org listen live wherever you are with the free radio app. in 1952, the korean war

mr. meadows, here is the point: testing is important and has to take place.he president in debate with dr. fauci doesn't help whi wha with what the other experts are saying. on the other channels, you have health officials saying wear masks -- pike i'>> i'm here with you this morning to talk about the facts. and the facts are this: as we continue to test, we continue to look at areas we need to be concerned about: nursing homes, long-term care. we need to make sure we focus there. we're finding more and more asymptomatic people, but the real result is we're not going to test our way out of this. we've got to get a therapeutic. we have to make sure we have a treatment and we're making great progress. >> john: but there is no better mega phone in the country than the president. but the things he seems to be kilometers pe concerned aboue health officials. to have the commander in chief on a different channel than his generals, if this is a war, seems to be a bad idea. >> john, i don't agree with your characterization there. i can tell you that daily, in fact, ma

mr. meadows: it is interesting to hear the comments from senator schumer and speaker pelosi, saying they want ideal, whenbehind -- a deal, behind closed doors, their actions do not indicate the same thing. as we look at this particular issue, the secretary is right. billion for105 children to attend school. the democrats said that is not enough. 915 billion for state and local, that is where they were two weeks ago. 5 billion. are at $91 if you were talking about compromise, even with their $1 trillion washington, d.c. magical way of saying they will come down $1 trillion, they cannot come up with any significant cut in their bill. $2.5they want is a trillion blank check. the president has encouraged us not only to negotiate, come back and negotiating good faith, but at this point i am extremely disappointed that we came up here today just to hear the same thing repeated over and over again, which is the same thing we have heard repeated for the past two weeks. the chief and i will recommend to the president, based on our activity today -- lack of activity today, for executive orders. th

mr. meadows: they did not say that. i watched it. they said, come back with a different offer. >> what possibility -- again, what i would say is there is both a topline issue but there are also policy issues. let me emphasize, i think there are areas where there is broad bipartisan agreement. it does not mean we finished all those areas, but whether it is the ppp, whether it is other areas. again, on the school issue, we have a broad understanding of what we want to accomplish. we are still going back and forth on numbers, and we will be fact-based. again we are reaching out to , states to make sure we have good numbers. at this point, we will recommend to the president that we move forward with executive action. be $600, or number what would it be? what can people expect? sec. mnuchin: again, we have made a compromise offer on ui as part of the legislation. i think it is a very fair proposal that covers the issues. again, we have been willing to compromise on ui. we have been willing to compromise on state and local. we understand t

mr. meadows.the president chose the white house because it's about connecting with the american people, that seems to underscorehe political natur ofhis speech. does it not concern you that you're mixing the official taxpayer business of this country with the re-election business of the republican party and donald trump? >> well, the president has been all over the country connecting with the american people. and this is about a message on what the president will do and what he can do and has done for the america people. it's theeople that have been affected. and ultimately, the promises that will be acted upon in the next four years. so i don't see a mixture of it. it's actually coming from the white house lawn, as you know. and so it's not an address from the oval office like franklin delano roosevelt did so many years ago. >> yeah -- >> i think as we look at -- >> that was before -- i was going to say, that was before the tv era. it's a different -- the imagery of the white house as a backdrop

mr. meadows did. you are slamming the table on our children and our schools. we need to have substantial help for our schools. this --ng tells us authorities on the subject tell us to have actual school, virtual school or hybrid schools cost approximately the same, and yet the president is insisting the money will go to the schools that are only open actually. what does that say? what does it say to children with disabilities where we need them to be getting as much care as possible so that if there is a situation where they can be taken care of? don't you want to take care of private schools? yes, we went to take care of private schools, but they do not have to take care of all of the children who are special-needs or high-risk or who are disabled or are especially at risk and the rest. the whole thing about this schools. as a mom, a grandma whose children whether it is catholic, private, public school, teachers in the same vein, we note this is central to the life of this is-- we know central to the life of america. children are learning, parents are earning

mr. meadows: leader mcconnell has made it clear it is redline and he establishes what goes before his senate colleagues. he has made it very clear that liability protection will be in any bill that gets passed and we support that decision. mcconnell going to be very involved? sec. mnuchin: mcconnell is very involved. we just updated his team. we will be in touch with him later today. yes, let me be clear, both kevin mccarthy and mitch mcconnell are very involved in everything we are doing. as i have made this constantly, mark and i are a team. we checked with the president and there is nothing we are doing without the support of the president and we are fully in touch with kevin and mitch. reporter: you said the president was checking in almost hourly -- >> obviously, he didn't check in while we were in there. maybe that was a little bit of hyperbole -- i was on the phone when we went in and i am about to call him as soon we finish. sec. mnuchin: there is clearly a desire on their part to do an entire package. we have made clear that we are willing to deal with the short-term issues and pass

mr. meadows, thanks so much for joining us today.ost importantly, please pass along to president trump and the first lady our deepest condolences for the loss of his brother robert yesterday. very sad news. >> i will do that. i spoke to him this morning and i'll be glad to pass that along, jake. thanks so much. >> it has been two months since president trump installed a loyal supporter as postmaster general. this is somebody who's been pushing various measures that have caused serious mail delays in parts of the country. now the postal service is warning vote by mail delays. why is president trump trying to prevent americans from exercising their right to vote if they choose to vote this way, especially during a pandemic? >> well, the president doesn't have a problem with anybody voting by mail. if you would look at it in terms of maybe a no excuse absentee ballot, what he opposes is universal mail-in ballots where you send millions of ballots out to registered voters across the country even those that don't request it. i've worked a

mr. meadows, to come up by 1 trillion commuters in the middle. they said no. last friday after our negotiating session with the white house i made it clear that the reasons are talks have stalled, was a white house had basically declared quote, my way or the highway. they were unwilling to meet us in the middle. they said thatd in the room. well, i guess imitation is the sikhs and sears form of flattery because the leader mcconnell is blaming democrats for the goshen -- for the breakdown in negotiations using the exact same language. he said, democrat of one saying my way or the highway. seriously, that's with republican leader who wasn't even in the room and won't dare go in the room claims. the facts.er the facts. we set d to the white house we e willing to comeil down by the trillion. we'll come up 1 trillion and meet in the middle? the white house said no, we are not. budging. so to whom does this logic apply? who is intransigent? who isnt really saying my way or the highway? the answer is obvious. this is not a both sides to blame situation. democrats are

mr. meadows is saying over three months ago democrats in the house passed t eed heroes bill. it provided $25 billion for the postal service. it made sure workers in the country who are unemployed will continue to receive those $600 supplements on top of their unemployment benefits that they separately need. it would make sure that workers continue to receive $1200 per person plus money for children as well. it make sure in america today when families are struggling with hunger, worried they will not be able to feed their kids. worried they will be evicted from their apartments and their homes, democrats three months ago addressed that. mitch mcconnell, the leerader o senate has not attended one of these goernegotiation sessions. trump could have gotten everybody in. mr. meadows was on vacation last week. i'm glad he's back at work. we have a crisis in democracy. congress has got to act. >> you reason for president. your policy disagreements with joe biden were front and center. you disagreed with senator harris on a number of issues. she did not support endi ining private hea

mr. meadows said, i don't know. i'm not one of the negotiators i'm not going to pass judgment that at all. >> woodruff: democrats are making a major push right now for more accesso mail-in voting.er yey congressman john lewis lewis' funeral, former president ama spoke about it. it was very critical of republican efforts i his words to deny any votes. today we had the white house advisor, steven miller, saying at what president obama said was scandalously and outrageou outrageously false. he said repuotblicans are n trying to do any such thing. is?re do you come down on th >> i think everybody knows that i have forev been for what ica voting from home. we ask people to stay at home, make it available for them to vote from home. for some r for some that may be mail for some that may be dropping off their vote. some predestiated place. we ought to be making it available for people to vote when they don't have to have a gathering. people will not be standing i line as they did in wisconsin when people came up sick. an c

mr. meadows. have you spoken to the president about those tapes? what is his response? >> obviously, he's been public with his response. just another day and another attack that we continue to see, george, i can tell you that i have never met the judge, i was at the funeral the other day, i was hoping to meet her there, she didn't show up for her brother's funeral, and the president that i have the privilege of serving is not the one that's being described on a 15-hour, i guess is what i'm reading secret tape, i mean, what family member tapes another family member for 15 hours secretly? i can tell you this, the president is committed to this country, loves this country, in terms of the one principle that he not only morning he talks to me about, what can we do to serve the american people better? he's been very consistent about that. >> the president's sister also claims that the president paid someone to take his entrance exams. let's listen. >> he went to fordham for one year and then he got into the university of pennsylvania because he had somebody take the exams --

mr. meadows. this is in donald trump's america. how much responsibility should voters be giving the president for his inability to keep the streets safe? >> well, i mean, you can try to reframe that, chuck, but that's just not accurate. i can tell you that when we look at kenosha and the phone calls that were made to the governor of wisconsin, we offered help, help was denied. obviously there was multiple gun shots. and people lost their life. we made a repeated call the next day. sent in national guard, fbi agents, u.s. marshals to restore peace in kenosha, wisconsin. and that's what needs to happen in portland. you know, it's interesting to see you frame portland that way after 94 days. perhaps now we're going to act because someone was shot last night. but to suggest that somehow it's been peaceful in portland, chuck, is not looking at the facts. we've had over 200 anarchists, and they're not peaceful protesters. these are people that every single night conduct violent acts. and it is in democrat cities. you want to talk about d

mr. meadows on meeting with mr. joy, it will take placeit later today, we ned to resolve the problems of the post office, there is lack of funding and new regulation that get in the way to the timely delivery of mail. we must resolve those in a way and to be delivered on time for the election and for the necessities of people. each and every one of these issues is critical and there are many more, we need answers and movement on all of them, not just on one or two. but some of our republican friends seem content to possible so they can check the box and go home. we cannot do that. we cannot agree to an inadequate bill and then go home while the virus continues to spread in the economyan continues to tak detee in the country gets worse, we will keep going step-by-step, inch by inch until we achieve the caliber, the extent, the depth and breath of the legislation that the american people need, deserve and. want. in stark contrast, the republican leaderid has decided that he'd rather just log partisan hotshots from the

mr. meadows is from the tea party. you have 20 republicans in the senate greatly influenced by them. and they want to spend the necessary dollars to help get america out of this mess. ideology blinds them. so we need a bill. there are only really two choices. for our republican negotiating friends. , with n do a strong bill democrats, and they have to realize they're going to need a majority -- they're going to need all the democrats to vote for it in the house and majority of democrats to vote for it in the senate. they don't have the votes in the senate. that means they got to meet us. in terms of moving. they can't just say no and do it our way. or their other choice is to do some weak, insufficient executived orers that just won't do the job for the people we all want to help. it's not that the executive orders might be negative but they're totally insufficient. they're insufficient in two ways. what they do is difficult because it seems, and no one knows what they're going to do, but they can't spend money, they can only forward money. so if you do a payroll tax cut, then after

mr. meadows said at the republican lunch, he is going to quit as of friday. he backed off. we are not quitting. we are ready to work. we will keep working and as long as it takes, as the speaker set in her tunnel analogy, as said in as the speaker her tunnel analogy, as long as it takes to reach an agreement, we will keep working until we get it done. democrats have been ready to work. republicans have stalled for four months. if republicans want to throw up their hands and walk away from the table, that is on them, but we don't want them to do it. the american people are going to remember who was ready to meet their needs and who was ready to continue negotiating in good faith. rep. pelosi: thank you, mr. leader. as you can see, democrats and the congress are unified in our values-based commitment to america's working families. at the same time, the republicans are in disarray. half of them won't vote for anything, not one dollar. i always see everything through the eyes of the children. through the eyes of the children, this is what we see and say to the republicans. don'

mr. meadows: over the last several days we have been having conversations on capitol hill, secretary mnuchin and myself, with democrat and republican leaders in the house and senate. last night, we concluded a meeting with senator schumer and speaker pelosi a little bit before 10:00. and at the president's direction, we have made no less than four different offers to democrats on capitol hill. on how we can make sure that the enhanced unemployment that is set to expire today, along with eviction protection that is set to expire as well, is protected. those four different offers have been actually rejected, but more importantly than that, they've not even been countered with a proposal. the democrats are certainly willing today to allow some of the american citizens who are struggling the most under this pandemic to go unprotected and the president has been very clear for us to be aggressive and forward leaning to make sure that they get protected. yet what we're seeing is politics as usual from democrats p on capitol hill. it surprises me that when we talk about compassion and caring about t

mr. meadows was briefing the president. he is in north carolina. i do know that senator scott will talk about what unites us as americans. i want to take an opportunity to mention last week. this is one of the key differences between last week and this week. too much was really identity politics, too much in people trying to put up false divides, to say "this is what divides us as americans." we heard a lot of grievances. we heard about it as a grievance fest. this week is about what brings us together. senator scott, very powerful remarks, and i do not want to get ahead of his speech, but you will be impressed. same thing with president trump. i spent a few hours with him as he was working on his speech. i think this would be about what unites us as americans. vaccinesought up earlier after you brought up the topic. there is also this q and on conspiracy.- qanon on signs. vice president pence has disassociated himself with it. will president trump do the same? this is a group that has said to be a risk to domestic terrorism. hyperbole, is not but

mr. meadows saying, i would characterize the conversations as productive and a step in the right direction most productive .eeting we have had he and steven mnuchin met with speaker pelosi and chuck schumer. mr. meadows pointed out the republicans made offers to the democrats on extending unemployment and extending the moratorium on eviction. here is what steve mnuchin said. he said we are not at the point of being close to a deal, we did agree on a timeline that we are going to reach an overall agreement we can get one by the end of the week so that legislation could pass next week. they better pass it soon because they're supposed to go on recess this friday. i guess they will stick around until they actually get something done. chuck schumer said earlier today that he appreciates the concessions, but they're still disagreeing on the scope and depth of the solution. charging onens are trillion. the democrats, three and a half trillion. that is what they're going to have to bridge. nancy pelosi saying she is hoping for a deal this week. she says we will have an agreement. we know nancy pe

mr. meadows -- to come up by $1 trillion, meet us in the middle. they said no. so last friday, after our negotiating session with the white house, i made it clear that the reasons are talks have stalled was that the white house had basically declared, quote, my way or the highway. they were unwilling to meet us in the middle. they said that in the room. well, i guess imitation is the sincerest form of flattery because now leader mcconnell is blaming democrats for the breakdown in negotiations, using the exact same language. he said democrats are the ones saying my way or the highway. seriously, that's what the republican leader who wasn't even in the room and won't dare go in the room claims. let's go over the facts. the facts. we said to the white house, we're willing to come down by $1 trillion. will you come up by $1 trillion and meet us in the middle? the white house said no, we are not budging. so to whom does this logic apply? who is intransigent? who is really saying my way or the highway? the answer is obvious. this is not a both sides to blame situation

mr. meadows. is the president tilting to mark meadows, or secretary mnuchin?evin: it is a good question. i think both of them have the ofsident's ear, but in terms understanding the capitol hill dynamics, mark does is obviously -- mark meadows is obviously a former congressman, one of the founders of the freedom caucus. but in terms of those republicans have an opportunity to really negotiate with speaker pelosi, they are the minority party, so they are not really voice is rather, their just not able to be as loud in those negotiations. however, he does bring with him expensive legislative experience. as for secretary mnuchin, he's always been seen much more as a middleman when it comes to dealing with the democrats. he is someone, based upon my who has a working relationship with speaker pelosi. jonathan: have used -- if you speak to anyone from the wall street crew, they will tell you the same thing. $1.5 trillion deal gets done a digitally -- gets done eventually. is anyone talking about the prospect of no deal? kevin: no. inside the beltway, it has been ho

mr. meadows, the white house, the republicans on the hill. stay with us. features of 26.is "bloomberg." ♪ guy johnson in london and tom keene in new york. let's talk about a subject we've been focusing on, turkey. says he wants another round of interest rate cuts in order to attract investments into his country. this follows and absent in the markets last week. it's in the liver of plunging to another record low against the dollar. joining us in phoenix kalen. good morning. the president wants another rate cut. the president wants another round of rate cuts. is that a good idea right now? >> i think would be a disastrous idea. we have seen president erdogan has gotten his way for the past year or so since the new governor came online. he brought interest rates down to almost 1600 basis points and he has managed to keep his word that interest rates would be in the single digits. but as we have seen, this meant turkey had to deploy huge amounts of reserves to keep the currency stable. they are not able to do much more at this. i think if interest rates go down further, and

mr. meadows, the chief of staff, and they ought to be sitting in the negotiati negotiation.down at the table in a bipartisan way and solve the problem. the one i hope everyone can come to a solution soon. senator durbin, always a pleasure to see you. first lady melania trump is taking the stage tonight. we will get a sneak peek from her chief of staff, coming up next. - [announcer] that is correct. number seven, please come up. please spell love. - love, s-h. - i think you misunderstood. your word is love. - yes, sir, i understand. - okay, please proceed. - love s-h-c. love. - i'm sorry, that's incorrect. - i know that's not how most people spell love but for me and about 1.4 million other kids, s-h-c is how you spell love. shc is shriners hospitals for children. - well then, you are correct. (audience applause) - because of the amazing people who support them, they bring love to so many kids in need every single day. - when you call the number on your screen right now and give as little as $19 a month, just 63 cents a day, you're showing love to thousands of children who ne

mr. meadows to come up by a trillion meet us in the middle. they said no >> one of the big market meeting stories. that came out of russia yesterday. we're going to have a key interview as carol dmitry off has told cnbc nations that are skeptical of the vaccine will not be provided with the drug. this after the country's health minister said allegations sputnik v is unsafe. speaking to "squawk box," dmitryov said this was not unexpected. >> it's a great promise. it's a great opportunity and some of the u.s. media, some of the u.s. people are wagging information warfare on russian vaccine. it was very interesting for us to see all of this we keep on saying very clear things that this vaccine has been six years in development. this platform has been proven. all of the information will be published. we specifically created sputnik vaccine website and we are attacked by comments that, frankly, do not go into the science of the vaccine, do not go into the facts about the vaccine. we were not expecting anything else we are not trying to convince the

mr. meadows discussing that saying the post master general dejoy that he will authorize to get us through election appropriately and correctly. here is mark meadows. mark: there's no sorting machines that are going offline between now and the election. that's something that my democrat friends are trying to do to stoke fear out there. that's not happening. i can tell you that the sorting machines, listen, the volume of first-class mail that they have at the postal system right now we haven't seen the volume since i was 17 year's old. eric: do you have confidence that the workers, the folks on the front lines that they can get the job done for the election? >> i have absolute confidence in postal workers. we are not beholding to any candidate or any ballot issue or any political party when we are talking about moving mail ballot and giving it priority and moving heaven and earth to make sure ballots get there on time. it's a preferred way of voting for many, many people and we have been doing it for generations. nothing new. our military personnel has been voting by mail going back to civi

mr. meadows, for being with us this morning. we continue in just a minute with our second-guessed. -- second-guest. >> thank you both. >> we are back. it is great to have you on, kevin. great to have you on this morning. >> i wish we were together and in person, but i am committed to try to keep the convention going. i started training monday night and have not stopped. take everything i say with a grain of salt. [laughter] >> i'm drinking coffee. of theyou are in charge fight against control of the senate, executive director of the nrfc. i wonder what you think is the biggest misconception about republicans' position as you guys battle for control here. >> i appreciate it. i have watched handicappers move these races. i think they are missing the underlying data in all these races. i'm not going to sit here and try to tell you they are totally off, but i think that trying to extrapolate out in the middle of a global pandemic, with unemployment at 10%, people are just really, really nervous, this race in the middle on ll of this

mr. meadows did, slammed the table and walked out. >> reporter: white house chief of staff mark meadows is jabbing right back. >> i think for those that are suffering they should be asking the democrats in the house and the senate why have you failed to meet the needs that we have so rightly expressed? >> reporter: without a deal the white house is signaling mr. trump will take executive action. >> the legal drafting is complete. we've had intense discussions about this in the last several days. i don't want to make a prediction. >> reporter: democrats are also keeping an eye on election day, accusing the administration of making changes to the nation's postal system that could slow down mail-in balloting, in a letter to the inspector general a group of democratic senators wrote the changes present a potential threat to mail-in ballots in the 2020 election. >> florida's got a great republican governor, and it had a great republican governor. it's got ron desantis, rick scott. >> reporter: the president is seizing on comments made by joe biden who seemed to say african-americans are less di

mr. meadows represent the president. he trusts them. we trust that he is aware of our conversations. what's really curious about this, because this is different from any negotiation we've had before, because we're in the middle of a pandemic. people are dying. so there's an urgency that is different from before. and the pandemic has caused economic suffering of such a magnitude that cannot be reversed until we address the pandemic. so we're in a bit of a different kind of a dynamic. secondly, we have a bill. we passed it nearly three months ago. they haven't passed anything. and as you've discerned from majority leader mcconnell, they have the votes for practically nothing. they haven't passed anything. they don't have the votes within their own 51. in other words, i'm not talking about 60 votes, i'm saying what is it that they from strength can bring to the floor. last week they brought something that was $200. well, it was a nonstarter, but even with that, it didn't have the full support of the republicans in the united states senate. so it's unlike other negotiations in terms of i

mr. meadows did up slammed table mark and white house chief of staff mark meadows is jabbing right back i think for those that are suffering they they should be asking their the democrats in the house and the senate. >>why why have you failed to meet the needs that we have rightly expressed without a deal. the white house is signaling mister trump will take executive action the legal drafting is complete we've had this intense discussions about this in the last several days. i don't want to make a prediction. >>democrats are also keeping an eye on election day accusing the administration of making changes to the nation's postal system that could slow down mail and balloting in a letter to the postal service inspector general a group of democratic senators wrote the changes appear to pose a potential threat to mail in ballots and the 2020 general election. president likes mail in voting in florida but not in other states like nevada martin's got a great republican governor and it had a great republican got got. >>ron desantis rick scott the president is seizing on comments made by joe bide

mr. meadows, now, his chief negotiator, is on vacation. but what we have got to do is extend that $600-a-week supplement for workers all over this country who are unemployed. we've got to continue and expand on that $1,200 check that people desperately needed. we have got to provide healthcare to all of our people. provide funding for cities and states and schools, who are desperately in deed need of tha funding. but trump won't talk about that. that's not what he does. he will try to deflect attention. but this is just another racist, stupid attack from a president who must be defeated in november. >> i mean, the other thing he doesn't want to talk about is covid-19. and a pandemic, which has killed more than 160,000 americans. who knows the actual number? and -- and the actual number of people who have, actually, been infected with this -- this virus. the president had -- he attended one task force meeting since april. he tweeted out pictures of it the other week. but i mean, he's not -- there is no national plan. still, we're still talk

mr. meadows does not want on the table. we need to deal with education. if you're going to go back to school, you need the resources to go back to school safely. we need to make sure our people are fed and do the nutritional aid that is needed. we need to make sure that families have that sustenance they've had. and, yes, we need unemployment insurance at a rate that will make sure families don't fall through the cracks. we need to get there. we're ready -- >> understanding -- >> but we -- >> what's on the table, i want to ask you about -- >> let me say this. >> okay. >> we're not just saying it, we've done it four times with the administration led by secretary mnuchin and the united states senate. so it's not like we just are talking. we have done it. we need to do it this time. i hope mark meadows comes back to the table with an understanding that there's give and take, not just take. >> so let me get your reaction before we go to what we're hearing is the latest white house proposal to deal with the growing number of coronavirus cases. you may have jus

mr. meadows.to the table and do what is right for the american people. >> the "new york times" reports one of your colleagues and one of your democratic colleagues from new jersey on a call for caucus members over the weekend. democratic caucus members said if there is no deal, if folks don't get all back to the table and hammer out a deal, he thinks the reaction of the public will be pox on both their houses. this is the fault of washington and the fault of both republicans and democrats. that voters would take it out on both parties in november. do you agree with that assessment? >> that was a very cherry picked comment. i was on that call and tom started by saying to the speaker, please, fight hard. there is no relief here and we need big relief. and, of course, we all want to get to a deal. the speaker wants to get to a deal, as well. we all understand that is essential. that's why democrats reduced our demands from $3 trillion to $2 trillion and asked for the white house to come up by a trill

mr. meadows, now the chief of staff to the president.ou pledged to do the same and i very much appreciate that and look forward to continuing to work with you and i hope you are ok and healthy in georgia. thank you for your remarks. ms. harris, if you would unmute yourself in order to be sworn in, and about three witnesses here would rise and raise your right hands. do you swear and affirm that the testimony you're about to give us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you god? let the record show all answered in their performance -- the affirmative. harris,ll on carol director of i.t. management issues of the government accountability office to give us her summary testimony. welcome, ms. harris. you chairman,ank ranking member and members of the sub committee. i would like to thank you and your excellent staff or your continued oversight for i.t. management and cybersecurity with this set of grades. it has been nearly five and half years since fitara's enactment, and it is a good barometer. during this time, age

mr. meadows did, slammed the table and walk out.he table on our children and their schools. we need substantial help for our schools. --rything tells us authorities on the subject tell us that to have actual school, virtual school, or hybrid school costs approximately the same. yet the president is insisting the money will go to the schools that are only open actually. what does it say to children with disabilities where we need them to be getting as much care as possible, if there is a situation where they can be taken care of? don't you want to take care of private schools? yes, we want to take care of children in private schools, but they don't have to take care of all the children with special needs or are disabled or are specially at risk and the rest. this whole thing about the schools -- as a mom, as a grandma who has children, public, private, catholic school, teachers are in the same vein. this is central to the life of america, that our children are learning, the parents are earning. this virus has prevented that from happ

mr. meadows on meeting with mr. dujoy which will take place later today. we need to resolve the problems at the post office. there is lack of funding and there are new regulations that get in the way to the timely delivery of mail. we must resolve those in a way that allows mail to be delivered on time for the election and for the necessities that people need. each and every one of these issues is critical, and there are many more. we need answers and movement on all of them, not just on one or two. but some of our republican friends seem content to pass a bill, any bill, so they can check the box and go home. we cannot do that. we cannot agree to an inadequate bill and then go home while the virus continues to spread, the economy continues to deteriorate and the country gets worse. so we're going to keep slogging through step by step, inch by inch, until we achieve the caliber, the extent, the depth and breadth of legislation that the american people need, deserve, and want. in stark contrast, the republican leader has decided that he would rather just lo

mr. meadows will talk about, the chief they call him. and chris coons is also there. and talking to the senior advisor jason miller at 11 a.m. eastern. also, tomorrow night host of the next revolution, still hilton, has an interview with president trump that's 9 p.m. eastern. interesting parts of that conversation for sure, gillian. gillian: yeah, we have gotten a couple of clips already. it sounds like it was a pretty substantive interview. meanwhile, fire and rain are threatening coastal communities now. thousands of firefighters battling major fires in the west while two major storms in the caribbean gather strength and head towards the gulf coast. adam klotz is tracking those storms. adam. >> hey, gillian, yeah, this is going to be a unique situation. two tropical storms in the tropics right now. they're going to become hurricanes and they're going to be moving into the gulf of mexico at roughly the same time. i'm going to have the tracks of both of these storms coming up in my full forecast after the break. mornings were made for better things than rheumatoid art

mr. meadows and the treasury secretary said about that. >> it's a red line and he's the one that establisheses before his senate colleagues and he's made it very clear that liability protection will be in any bill that gets passed and we support that decision. >> they've made clear, there's clearly a desire on their part to do an entire package. we've made clear that we are willing to deal with the short-term issues and pass something quickly and come back to the larger issues. so we're at an impass on that. eric: that's interesting, if you pars mnuchin's words saying we're clear on that but let's deal with something like that separately. can they do that if mcconnell -- or is that just a negotiating tactic? >> i think it's a negotiating tactic or it's a negotiation, something that mnuchin would like to do, pass what they're calling a skinny bill, some provisions. the democrats are saying wait a second, some provision, an extension of that, what we need is a bigger package. the liability protections are very controversial. this would protect companies, schools, from getting sued if they are

mr. meadows, now the chief of staff to the president of the u.s. you pledged to do the same.i very much appreciate that and look forward to continuing to work with you. helping inare ok in georgia. thank you for your remarks. harris, if you would and unmute yourself in order to be sworn in. or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the truth and nothing but the truth so hope you got? -- god? let the record show all of our witnesses answered in the affirmative. your written statements will be part of the record. carol harris, director of i.t. management issues and government -- at the government and ability office to give us some of her testimony. harris. ms. >> thank you. i would like to thank you and your excellent staff for your continued oversight of federal i.t. management and cybersecurity with this tends set of grades -- tenth set of grades. your scorecard has served as a good barometer to measure progress of this implementation. during this time, the agencies have made significant progress. in this latest scorecard, there 14 c's., 9 b's, and this is the fir