mr. mike ferreira. are you here? welcome. >> thank you, commissioners. i'm the conservation chair for the loma chapter of the sierra club. and we, in unison with the san francisco bay chapter have been following this ridge trail program for a few years now. and i do want to start by saying that all of us, sierra club, audobon society, native plant society, committee for green foothills, they're involved in unison on this. have a great appreciation for the transparency that we've been getting from your staff. it is exemplary. i did want to say that. we're also pleased with the level of personnel that we're assigned to do the e.i.r. for this. ok? we feel like san francisco has put forward some of its very best minds for that. >> $50. [phone ringing] >> oh, ok. there have been several outreach meetings about this. and as you are aware, there is the existing road north of highway 92 and a proposed new trail south of highway 92. and the e.i.r. that is in process now is trying to deal with that. we are quite concerned that it's -- that there isn't a discussion