mr. millwee from texas. >> well, i think you're right. there are integrated care models out there, and none of these are mutually exclusive. there is no best answer. we have the star plus program because it works for us. we also have pace. star plus and pace can coexist, or they work well together. i'm familiar with the north carolina model, and it could work very well for texas in a rural or area where we have star plus in urban areas. so i think the answers are out there. i think states have done a lot of innovative work on this very important issue for us because of the medicaid expenditure and also medicare is going to benefit from that too. so the models are out there. >> yes, mr. bloom. >> yeah. i think that's exactly the answer. i couldn't agree more. the only thing i would add is that if you look at commercial health plans which typically are an approach to integrating care for the duals, they attempt through their contract network to integrate care, but they do a wonderful job, i think, in improving the coordination of care for t