it's a bad deal, mr. moniz. that the way the testing is done and the certifying, not in regard of him decertifying the agreement, but their following the deal is too much dependent on what iran wants to tell people. and that they are violating the spirit of this deal by creating chaos all over the world and be a sponsor of terror. >> i don't know where to start with that. first of all, the deal is extremely strong. in fact, sighsly the transparency, the visibility that we in the world have into that program. the verification measures in this agreement are unprecedented. precisely because the world went into these negotiations. of course the united states as well not trusting iran. so the agreement is not based on trust in any way. it is based ultimately on verification. we would give that up if we walk away from the deal. with regard to iran's other activities in the region which gives us of course considerable concern from yemen to syria to hezbollah to missiles, to human rights, we and our allies have all been

so what happens if mr trump decertifies the deal on thursday? we can speak now to ernest monizal. if he declares iran to be in noncompliance, is the deal dead? not necessarily however i believe the move by the president to not certify compliance would be negative in any case but just compliance would be negative in any case butjust to work compliance would be negative in any case but just to work through compliance would be negative in any case butjust to work through the implications. one implication is that iran could have the option that in withdrawing we lose the rollback of the nuclear programme that was just discussed, we lose very importantly the increased visibility we have in the programme. in fact the verification measures, some of which go on forever by the way, i think actually is the most important pa rt think actually is the most important part of the deal. we probably succeed in isolating ourselves, you mention the british ambassador and thatis mention the british ambassador and that is correct, also true of the french and german ambassadors, the eu ambassador, t