mr. moran: mr. chairman, the minority would respectfully request of the majority that such col keys, including the ones that -- be shared with the minority. and they may very well prompt actions on my part -- that may very well apply to the delisting of wolves. so we would appreciate when the majority engages in colloquys sharing that language with the minority. would the gentleman like to respond, i would yield to the gentleman? mr. simpson: i have no problem with sharing with you the colloquys that we engage in. mr. moran: good. we'd like to have a copy of the colloquy that transpired. at this point i'd yield five minutes to the gentleman from new york, the ranking member of the financial services appropriations subcommittee, mr. serrano. the chair: the gentleman from new york is recognized for five minutes. mr. serrano: i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend. the chair: without objection. mr. serrano: i thank the gentleman. i rise today to express my opposition to h.r. 2584, the interior ap

mr. moran: mr. chairman, in response to my very good friend , it appears that the conduct -- it appears that conduct of these park rangers was wrong, so they have been reassigned, and i'm sure that whoever has responsibility now in that jurisdiction has been told, you don't do this. now, these kinds of things happen all over the country if not all over the world. clearly some people in authority abuse their power. it happens with local police departments. it happens to state police. it happens with other people with a badge, and so they get disciplined. sometimes they get taken to court. but normally we don't change national policy to deal with misconduct, if that's what it was, on the part of certain individuals. we don't change national policy. that's what you're trying to do. let me put into this discussion and deliberation the fact that they had to go through national park land to get to that state water. well, they do, and the national park service runs the concessions so the national park serv

mr. moran: the argument that the gentleman -- the chair: the gentleman is recognized mr. moran: thank you, the argument that the gentleman makes, first of all seems to me we should set ourselves on record and the appropriations bill is the ultimate source of funding for the capitol complex. but the argument that this will save money it seems to me is deficient when we are talking about human health. i mean we could choose not to spend money on pure filing our water -- purifying our water. we would save a lot of money. let people drink out of the tap or get their water wherever, but we feel that the health of our employees and our constituents who visit us is important enough that we should invest that money. science is telling us that in fact toxic leak from this material into the food and the drink that our employees and our constituents are using. now, that science may not be as prominent. may not be as fully aware of that. but we know that polystyrene is a toxic material. and it seems to me we should err on the side of caution, particularly when the health of our employ

mr. moran: mr. chairman, this amendment would eliminate the energy star program. even though a great many american consumers rely on it to choose appliances that meet federal energy efficiency standards. such as window, refrigerators, dish washers, clothes washers. the program has improved since an inspector genre port highlighted flaws with the program. in response to the i.g.'s report, energy star move aid way from allowing manufacturers to self-certify that they comply with efficiency standards and now they require third-party certifiers. i'm sure there's room left for further improvement in the program, as the gentleman from louisiana has stated, many, many consumers have come to rely on this program in their everyday purchases. they would be stunned to think that this program is now being targeted. americans with the help of energy star save nearly $18 billion on their utility bills last year alone and enough energy to avoid greenhouse gas emissions equivalent to those from 33 million cars

mr. month moran and mr. dicks and their efforts making these difficult choices in some very tough economic times. and normally, i wouldn't come here and tell you what to do, but again coming from a state that has some 11 parks and preserves and national mon youments, i have a great interest in some of these accounts. we all have to set priorities. the department of interior, i noticed, has had i guess in 2010, just under $11 billion that's being cut to $9.8 billion, 7% reduction. people ask me about transportation productions, whether it is f.a.a., transportation. i'm reducing some of the accounts by 30% in authorizations, so i know the difficulty you are facing. i looked at some of the other accounts, e.p.a., people would be shocked to find that e.p.a. has $7.1 billion in this bill, quite a bit to operate this agency. the national park service has $2.5 billion. i think if you ask people on the street, you know, where would you put the dollars, i think they would like to see something very tangible. they app

mr. moran: mr. chairman, this is an organization that was established by president nixon, i think it was bill who was the first head of it. what it does is to coordinate the implementation of the national environmental policy act. that act, as i recall, goes back to 1976, 1969. it was president nixon that put it into effect. the council on environmental quality does the national environmental policy act reviews. and it's a critical function. in addition to that it coordinates the environmental programs throughout the federal government. you didn't have c.e.q., you'd have to invent it. i know if we didn't have it we'd be creating it in this appropriations bill because this appropriations bill is replete with requests to the administration to coordinate environmental programs, particularly those related to climate change. to avoid duplication. well, that's the role of c.e.q. the council of environmental quality is very inadequately funded. it's a relative handful of people. so the only thing that i ca

mr. moran: i yield to the gentleman. mr. scalise: what the amendment as it's revised would do would reduce the $420,000, it would not go to the spend regular ducks account, it would stay within the department, that addresses one of the concerns the chairman had. there has to be accountability, for those people who played by the rules who are being penalized today, this is a way to send a message and a message attached to a spending reduction in the secretary's department that he can't just deny people the ability to go back to work who are playing by the rules. i yield back to the gentleman. mr. moran: i reclaim my time. i don't know, business about playing by the rules and punishing people who don't, it seems to me that the interior department is trying to play by the rules of the congress -- that the congress instructed it to play by but notwithstanding that, when you remove $420,000 from the bill, i think you lose it. i don't think that this makes a difference. you say -- what you're saying is that you're not going to put

mr. moran: but that's the water that we depend upon for drinking, for agriculture, for much of our fishing and wildlife habitat. if my amendment to strike section 109 of this bill is not accepted, critical headwater and wetlands that ensure the quality and quantity of our freshwater supply will be lost, lost to the dumping of sewage, to toxic mining materials, to unregulated infill for residential, commercial and industrial development. over the past decade, mr. chairman, two supreme court rulings have caused confusion by which waters and wetlands should receive protection under the clean water act. as a result, important fish, wildlife, flood protection and filtering waters now lack clear protection under the law, and businesses and regulators face uncertainty and delay as to which waters should fall under federal protection. the corps of engineers and environmental protection agency developed draft guidance this spring to clearly show which waters should be protected, and this guidance does p

dicks is concerned about and that mr. moran is also concerned about and we'll work with the gentleman in conference in trying to address the concerns expressed by the gentleman. mr. clarke: i ask the gentleman to yield time back, please. mr. simpson: i'd be pappy -- happy to yield. mr. clarke: i offer this amendment because of what's at stake. it's a $7 billion industry in the great lakes fishing industry and right now metro detroit and the state of michigan's in very hardhit economic times, you know, by our industrial base being eviscerated. this is the one saving grace in our state and in that region is the fishing industry. that's the reason why i'm asking for this right now. it's emergency action. we found asian carp d.n.a. in lake michigan last week. i believe i've got to do everything in my power as a representative of not only michigan but of that entire region to stop that carp from getting into the great lakes system which would destroy our fishing industry. i urge your help. mr. simpson: yield back the balance of my t

amendment number 9 by mr. moran of virginia. the chair will reduce to two minutes the time for any electronic vote after the first vote in this series. the unfinished business is the request for recorded vote on amendment number 2 printed in house report 112-173, by the gentleman from north carolina. mr. watt, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the chair: amendment number 2, printed in house report number 112-173, offered by mr. watt of north carolina. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, -- a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a 15-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the hou

mr. moran: there is insufficient time to lay out the other side. i don't have strong disagreement with many of the points that have been made but there is another perspective to this and ought to be advanced in this body. i thank the speaker for her time and i thank my good friend for yielding. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentlelady from florida continues to reserve. the gentleman from california. mr. berman: may i ask through the chair does the gentlelady from florida -- ms. ros-lehtinen: we have 3 1/2 minutes left approximately and we have mr. burton to close for us. so we are waiting for you to finish. mr. berman: may i inquire how much time? the chair: -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman has 45 seconds. the gentleman is recognized for 45 seconds. . mr. berman: there are two important issues raised by this resolution. one seems a little more distant than it did at the time it was introduced and that was the possibility of a unity government that included an organization that is on our terrorist list that

mr. moran: thank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, i -- all i have is a reference point what i observed over the last 20 years in this body. i remember when we were trying to pull out of the last recession in 1990. and george h.w. bush called the leaders of both political parties together. they came up with a compromise. they raised revenue and they cut spending. and they started to pull us out of the deficit. and then the economy started rebounding. president clinton followed suit. and in fact he raised rates to 39.6%. we heard at the time all of these arguments to you can't do that. you can't do -- raise new revenue because it's going to cut jobs. and so on. the reality is, granted not one republican vote was cast to do that, but what happens? we know what happened? 20 million jobs were created. we had surpluses. we had the strongest economy in modern history. we reduced welfare. we grew the middle class. homeownership increased. and we handed over a surplus, projected surplus, $5.6 trillion. in fact, this year we would ha

mr. moran: thank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, i -- all i have is a reference point what i observed over the last 20 years in this body. i remember when we were trying to pull out of the last recession in 1990. and george h.w. bush called the leaders of both political parties together. they came up with a compromise. they raised revenue and they cut spending. and they started to pull us out of the deficit. and then the economy started rebounding. president clinton followed suit. and in fact he raised rates to 39.6%. we heard at the time all of these arguments to you can't do that. you can't do -- raise new revenue because it's going to cut jobs. and so on. the reality is, granted not one republican vote was cast to do that, but what happens? we know what happened? 20 million jobs were created. we had surpluses. we had the strongest economy in modern history. we reduced welfare. we grew the middle class. homeownership increased. and we handed over a surplus, projected surplus, $5.6 trillion. in fact, this year we would ha

mr. moran: mr. president, thank you very much. in my view, something significant happened yesterday in the house of representatives. i'm pleased with the outcome of the passage of cut, cap and balance. i think we have a serious responsibility here in the united states congress to see that we address the economic circumstances we find ourselves in, and certainly the way we do that is important. i'm one who believes that it would be irresponsible not to address the debt ceiling. but i also believe it would be irresponsible only to address the debt ceiling without adequately taking into account the economic circumstances we're in and the tremendous debt that our country faces. there is no way that we can continue down the path that we are on. and while it's easy for us to make accusations, the reality is this country through its congress and through various administrations have overspent year after year after year. the fact that 42 cents of every dollar that we spend is now borrowed tells us that we ca

an amendment by mr. moran of virginia. an amendment by mr. markey of massachusetts. amendment number 5 by mr. lamborn of colorado. an amendment by mr. connolly of virginia. an amendment by mr. miller of north carolina. an amendment by mr. broun of georgia. an amendment by mr. welch of vermont. an amendment by mr. pompeo of kansas. an amendment by mr. tonko of new york. an amendment by mr. garrett of new jersey. an amendment by mr. wu of oregon. an amendment by mr. mcclintock of california. an amendment by mr. schiff of california. an amendment by mr. garamendi of california. the chair will reduce to two minutes the time for any electronic vote after the first vote in this series. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from texas, mr. sessions, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment offered by mr. sessions of texas. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request

the speaker pro tempore: the chair recognizes the gentleman from virginia, mr. moran. mr. moran: thank you, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: for five minutes. mr. moran: last night we were asked to amend the constitution. after 2/1/4 centuries in a way that will termly limit the ability of all of government to foster competitiveness in a global economy. to generate greater equality of opportunity, to treat our seniors with dignity and respect, and to defend and define this great nation as an ever shining democratic beacon of hope and prosperity. so i was proud to vote against the cut, cap, and balance act. it is the house republicans' vision for america's future. this is a vision in which the country turns its back on the achievements of the last century and chooses not to invest in meeting the challenges of the next century. the republicans aim to use a crisis of their own making to hamstring future congresses, limiting our ability to make necessary infrastructure investments, to care for the poor or aged and disabled, and to respond to national and international cris

i yield two minutes to the distinguished gentleman from virginia, mr. moran. the speaker pro tempore: the entleman from virginia. mr. moran:hank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, i -- all i have is a reference point what i observed over the last 20 years in this body. i remember when we were trying to pull out of the last recession in 1990. and george h.w. bush called the leaders of both political parties together. they came up with a comomise. they raised revee and they cut spending. and they started to pull us out of the deficit. and then the economy started rebounding. president clinton followed suit. and in fact he raised rates to 39.6%. we heard at the time all of these arguments to you can't do that. you can't do -- raise new revenue because it's going to cut jobs. and so on. the reality is, granted not one republican vote was cast to do that, but what happens? we know what happened? 20 million jobs were created. we had surpluses. we had the strongest economy in modern history. we reduced welfare. we grew the middle class. homeownership increased. and we h

mr. moran: mr. president, thank you. yesterday i was on the senate floor talking about this piece of legislation now pending before the united states senate passed by the house of representatives earlier this week. i am a sponsor and support of cut, cap, and balance and believe that it is a path toward responsibility that we need to demonstrate here in the united states senate, here in the congress and here in america. mr. president, it seems to me that it would be -- it's certainly irresponsible not to raise the debt ceiling, but it's equally or more responsible not to raise the debt ceiling without making adjustments in the way we do business in washington, d.c. and clearly cutting spending is a component of that. capping spending is a portion of our national economy. returning it to the days in which just a few years ago in which we were spending only 18 -- i say only in quotes perhaps, only 18% of our gross national product by the federal government. unfortunately, in the last few years that 18% has grown to 25%, 24.

mr. moran: we will reserve the balance of our time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from new jersey. mr. garrett: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. scalise. the speaker pro tpore: the gentleman from louisiana. mr. scalise: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise in support of cut, cap and balance and you look at what american families have been telling us for the last few years, during these tough economic times what they've been doing is they've been cutting back, they've been tightingen -- tightening their belts and they sit around the kitchen table and figure out how to balance their budget and live within their means and yet today on the other side all you've seen is a parade of members coming criticizing the concept of a balanced budget. actually calling it extreme, radical. imagine that. only a big spending washington liberal could think it would be radical to require washington to start living within its means like families have been doing for years. and so frankly american families would say

mr. moran: mr. speaker, according to grover norquist who is apparently the real republican strategist, this is about ensuring that democrats will never again have the revenue to govern as democrats. but what does he mean by that? is he talking about when roosevelt rescued us from the great depression? in the 1930's? or when saved the world for democracy in the 1940's? or when we built the middle class with the g.i. bill in the late 1940's? or when we won the race to space in the early 1960's? or when we started medicare and passed civil rights laws in the mid 1960's? or when president clinton raised taxes, balanced thebudget, generated $20 million -- 20 million new jobs, cut poverty, grew the middle class, passed on projected surpluses as far as the eye could see and enabled those at the top tax rates to take home more after tax income than in any prior time in american history? the fact is that democrats have made this nationreat by investing in all our people and by raising the revenue necessary t

mr. moran: mr. chairman, this is a self-contrived bankruptcy. a decade ago, the majority party inherited surpluses as far as the eye could see. and then they promptly took away the revenue that enabled us to balance our budget. they crippled this country -- country with deep tax cuts. we have the lowest revenue we've had at any time since before medicare and basically at any time since the 1920's. and what this is going to do and the way we -- the reason we oppose this is if this was on the books, we never would have had the ability to rescue the world from the great depression in the 1930's. we never would have had the ability to win the war for democracy in the 1940's. we never would have won the race to space for the free world in the 1960's. we never would have been able to establish medicare and civil rights legislation in the mid 1960's. and certainly had we stuck with this kind of approach to government, we never would have been able to create 20 million new jobs as we did in the 1990's and reduce poverty, expand the middle class and crea

mr. moran: to address the house for one minute. revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman from virginia is recognized for one minute. mr. moran: mr. speaker, i'll never forget the day that we voted for the clinton tax rates. we were told by all of the republicans that this was going to cause massive job loss, an unbalanced budget, drive us into recession. well, we know exactly what happened. more than 20 million new jobs were created. we have the lowest level of poverty. the highest expansion of the middle class. three straight budget surpluses, and the people at the highest tax rates took home more after tax income than any time in american history. it worked. we handed over $5.6 trillion of surplus. and then when the republicans took power again, what happened? immediately they cut taxes. but not across the board. in a way designed primarily to benefit the wealthy. that's why the top 1% has 42% of this nation's wealth. the bottom 90% -- 26%, the greatest income disparate ever. this is a manufactured crisis, mr. sp

mr. moran: mr. speaker, according to grover norquist who is apparently the real republican strategist, this is about ensuring that democrats will never again have the revenue to govern as democrats. but what does he mean by that? is he talking about when roosevelt rescued us from the great depression? in the 1930's? or when we saved the world for democracy in the 1940's? or when we built the middle class with the g.i. bill in the late 1940's? or when we won the race to space in the early 1960's? or when we started medicare and passed civil rights laws in the mid 1960's? or when president clinton raised taxes, balanced the budget, generated $20 million -- 20 million new jobs, cut poverty, grew the middle class, passed on projected surpluses as far as the eye could see and enabled those at the top tax rates to take home more after tax income than in any prior time in american history? the fact is that democrats have made this nation great by investing in all our people and by raising the revenue neces

mr. moran: mr. speaker, according to grover norquist who is apparently the real republican strategist, this is about ensuring that democrats will never again have the revenue to govern as democrats. but what does he mean by that? is he talking about when roosevelt rescued us from the great depression? in the 1930's? or when we saved the world for democracy in the 1940's? or when we built the middle class with the g.i. bill in the late 1940's? or when we won the race to space in the early 1960's? or when we started medicare and passed civil rights laws in the mid 1960's? or when president clinton raised taxes, balanced the budget, generated $20 million -- 20 million new jobs, cut poverty, grew the middle class, passed on projected surpluses as far as the eye could see and enabled those at the top tax rates to take home more after tax income than in any prior time in american history? the fact is that democrats have made this nation great by investing in all our people and by raising the revenue neces

mr. moran: madam president, thank you very much. i've spoken several times over the last several weeks in regard to the issue at hand, and clearly the time continues to escape us in which the day of reckoning is coming in regard to the debt ceiling issue. and i've said from the very beginning that in my view it would be irresponsible not to raise the debt ceiling, but it would be as irresponsible if not more so, to raise the debt ceiling without reducing the spending, getting our books more in balance and moving us in the right direction toward a balanced budget in the future. i recognize that this can't be accomplished overnight, and i recognize that there are those who bring different points of view and perspective to the senate floor. this is a body of people who represent individuals who live in all 50 states and have points of view and philosophies and background that are different than perhaps the constituents that i represent from the state of kansas. i've been a strong supporter of the legislation entitled cut, cap, and bala

mr. moran: mr.resident, i thank the gentleman from south dakota and would indicate that, yes, kansas is one of those states, one of those 49 states, in our constitution we are prohibited in almost always living beyond our means. and it's been something that kansas legislature and governor has lived with you throughout the history of our state. the solution to the problem in kansas is not a cry for more revenue. it's a recognition that spending in difficult times has to be reduced. it's the restraint that we desperately need in washington, d.c. that's so common in state capitals and families and businesses across the country. and so, while i've always indicateed to kansans, while we have this debate every year about how to balance the revenues with expenditures and it's not an enjoyable debate, we are fortunate in kansas that we have to reach that conclusion, and it's something that we need in washington, d.c. for a long time the politics, the political talk in washington is that we're too likely to

mr. moran: mr. president, i thank the gentleman from south dakota and would indicate that, yes, kansas is one of those states, one of those 49 states, in our constitution we are prohibited in almost always living beyond our means. and it's been something that kansas legislature and governor has lived with you throughout the history of our state. the solution to the problem in kansas is not a cry for more revenue. it's a recognition that spending in difficult times has to be reduced. it's the restraint that we desperately need in washington, d.c. that's so common in state capitals and families and businesses across the country. and so, while i've always indicateed to kansans, while we have this debate every year about how to balance the revenues with expenditures and it's not an enjoyable debate, we are fortunate in kansas that we have to reach that conclusion, and it's something that we need in washington, d.c. for a long time the politics, the political talk in washington is that we're too likely t

mr. moran: i've spoken this week several times about the importance of cut, cap and balance and it -- it is the plan that has passed the house of representatives, was the path that we could take here and i've encouraged my colleagues throughout the week to come together and try to make this cut, cap and balance plan the framework by which we resolve this issue of the impending necessity of raising the debt ceiling. and i've said in every -- on every occasion that it would be irresponsible not to raise the debt ceiling. i don't know exactly what the consequences and at what point in time those consequences occur but i do know that it would be damaging to the economy. but i also believe that it would be equally if not more irresponsible to simply raise the debt ceiling without taking the necessary steps to put our country on the right path toward a balanced budget in the future. and i thought cut, cap and balance really did present that opportunity in which we cut spending back to previous years'

mr. moran: raising the debt ceiling is a -- a significant issue that we face, and while i'm pleased to see the discussions ongoing on the senate floor today, we really do need actions that speak louder than our words. i say that knowing i'm coming here to talk about an issue that we have attempted to -- to bring to the attention of my colleagues in the senate now for a long time. we have a looming financial crisis. all the democrat leadership was capable of bringing up on the senate floor this week was a sense of the senate that wealthy americans should pay their fair share of something. and i suppose we'll have a discussion about that that begins -- has begun and will continue for the next few days, but i believe that americans deserve leadership in our nation's capital to confront the real fiscal challenges. not just this desire to kick the can down the road and ignore the crisis that we face, and in my view, our president and the senate leadership have failed to lead. they have failed to ado

commissioner moran: the different days, i think it would be helpful. president vietor: just to insert it? ok. mr. jensen's, would you like to make comments on that the amendment and respond to commissioner caen's questions? >> a would be happy to. and represent bawsca . last month, members of the board of directors of bawsca and staff had two construction projects and their progress was very impressive became -- very impressive. their work is excellent. it is a reflection of the good work by ms. labonte and her staff. one of the most startling changes is when you visited the facilities, you have people talking about what they did not have and what they could not get done. now people were excited, they're talking about what they were doing. it was quite refreshing. people were excited about their work. the extension of vw sip -- the wsip completion date is very serious. this is a tough program and it will continue to be challenging for the next five years. we hope we have constructive recommendations. it appears so. we did see a draft of the resolution amendments before you. there were very respo

mr. jensen. >> we were pleased to attend a ceremony at the opening debate of the tunnel, and it was throwing -- to a sheltermoran was there -- commissioner moran was there. people doing hard work on that, it is very impressive. i encourage you. president vietor: great. thank you. i was sorry to miss the event. glad you could attend. next item, please. secretary housh: the next item with the consent calendar. all matters listed under the consent calendar are considered to be routine by the san francisco but utilities commission and will be acted upon by a single vote of the commission. there are energy efficiency services for a, b is contract lighting efficiency and upgraded services for the bay area's, $2 million to the third lowest bidder, torres construction corporation to perform lighting efficiency and lighting retrofit work in the city. item c, approving plans and specifications for the water enterprise system for a still pump station. ntk construction to demolish the existing. d, approved the plans and specifications and award wastewater and apprise the renewal and replacement program for various locations sioux were replacements for rep

moran: if we wrap up our business, we should be able to do that. president vietor: next item. secretary housh: item number seven, a report of the general manager. >> we want to start with mr. rydstrom. we sold bonds last week. >> good afternoon. we went to market again last week and sold water revenue bonds. if i could have the commission secretary go to the overhead projector? a very successful sale, achieving $18.10 million worth of interest savings over the lifetime of the 30-year bonds for ratepayers. that includes refunding some of our 2001 and 2002 revenue bonds. competitively, we sold the bonds. once again, we have bank of america, merrill lynch the winning bidder. on the next slide, slides 3, you can see all three sales. some of the bonds were the largest, $603 million. we had several bidders, and bank of america/merrill lynch once again the winning bidder there. to help put this into perspective for bank of america/merrill lynch, they have been one of our largest buyers since 2006, and the enterprise has been selling a great deal of bonds. about $1.60 billion total they have purchased, including what they have just purchased. this bid was to fund our hetch- hetchy

moran: the meeting is adjourned. >> good morning. welcome to the budget and finance committee. my name is carmen chu. i'm joined by the supervisors. mr. victor young is here. we actually had two recess meetings. the meeting that was supposed to start today at 1:00 and another that was supposed to star at 1:05, so we are combining both of those meetings at this time. mr. young, the 1:00 schedule and agenda, items 1-5. >> item number one, consolidating budget and annual appropriations. fiscal year ending june 30, 2012 and 2013. item # two, the annual budget. [unintelligible] >> and would you call from the 1:05 scheduled meeting. >> item #one fiscal year ending june 30, 2012 and 2013. item #2, fiscal year ending june 30, 2012, fiscal year ending in june 30, 2013. item #3 no, -- >> mr. clerk, we have to the bill agendas. 1:00 and 1:05. can i take a formal motion to combine the two? >> motion. >> ok, we can do that without objection. thank you, colleagues. this is the culmination of a of a very long budget process. before we take comments from individuals and give our thanks to those who worked very hard on this, i wanted to make a motion

amendments be allowed to be offered i out of the specified order, amendment number 9 by mo moran and amendment number 10 by mr. holt. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. >> mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent that all members have five legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous materials on h.r. 2551 and that i may include tabular material on the same. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. pursuant to house resolution 359 and rule 18, the chair declares the house in the committee of the whole house on the state of the union for consideration of h.r. 359. the chair appoints mr. woodall to preside over the committee of the whole. the chair: committee of the whole house on the state of the union for consideration of h.r. 2551 which the clerk will report by title. the clerk: a bill making appropriationers in lennell slailtive branch for the fiscal year ending september 30, 2012, and for other purposes. the chair: pursuant to the rule, the bill is considered read the first time. the gentleman from florida, mr. crenshaw and the gentlema

mr. moran: madam president, thank you very much. i've spoken several times over the last several weeks in regard to the issue at hand, and clearly the time continues to escape us in which the day of reckoning is coming in regard to the debt ceiling issue. and i've said from the very beginning that in my view it would be irresponsible not to raise the debt ceiling, but it would be as irresponsible if not more so, to raise the debt ceiling without reducing the spending, getting our books more in balance and moving us in the right direction toward a balanced budget in the future. i recognize that this can't be accomplished overnight, and i recognize that there are those who bring different points of view and perspective to the senate floor. this is a body of people who represent individuals who live in all 50 states and have points of view and philosophies and background that are different than perhaps the constituents that i represent from the state of kansas. i've been a strong supporter of the legislation entitled cut, cap, and bala