mr. morell: i'll start. i think that vladimir puent's main objective, there's a lot of different objectives in what he did, but his main objective when prop up assad, who putin moved, made his move, was really -- assad was at his weakest point since the fall of 2012. putin believes that he needs to prop up assad because putin's concerned that if assad goes, there will be chaos in syria and there will be more running room for isis. and like robert, i don't necessarily believe that. it depends on what comes next. what we need is, we need a transition from assad to a government that all syrians can agree with. that's the transition we need. if that happens, then putin's wrong, then assad going is not a bad thing, assad going is a good thing. what putin has done is now made that potential transition much more difficult. because assad was on the verge, right, of falling essentially. and allowing us to get to that new government. and now russia has made that so much more difficult. what he's done is also now made