mr. morrison: absolutely. when they arrive, we know they are highly motivated, so it's not a surprise that many will go on to achieve greater things in their lives. mr. fix: and their concentration in stem could be due to the fact that they need a higher return on their education because it is so much more cost we -- costly. when you think of their parents, i say that is the parent of two liberal arts graduates. ms. lim: there is still a language they area. my dad was not going to say he came here to be a bachelor and then major in english language -- english literature. it's not going to happen. > this is a very interesting conversation. this topic is really important to me in articular, but i guess where i'm coming from is we can have all the intellectual i'm coming from is we can have conversations and policy conversations about this topic all we want to, but in less the message is being communicated to the average american, if you will, it does not seem like is going to go anywhere. i would like to hear so

mr. morrison: and the professor of global leadership and also the ceo of the thunderbird school of global management, which is now 71 years old and was founded right after the end of world war ii with the promise of promoting democracy and economic development through trade and through the development of more effective global leaders. i am very interested in the topic of immigration because of the impact it has on education and on our student body and universities overall and impact those students have when they graduate on economic development in this country, but also, in many cases, when they go back home, the impact they have on public policy and economic development. as we get going with the panel, i would like to share some thoughts on that. alllim: our next guest came the way from california, this place called silicon valley. i'm thrilled to have him. he is an immigrant, i ignore, social leader, civic leader -- entrepreneur, social leader, civic leader. here is,son for being one, i think you alluded to it -- tech and silicon valley would not exist without immigrants, if you will, p

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