they believe that this ouster of mr. morsif the most basic principles of democracy, they say they're going to continue to protest until their president and they say he's still their legitimate president, mr. mohamed morsi is reinstated and the question is how does this conflict end because both sides are digging in. >> i'm just wondering if there's sort of discouragement there. what's the sense there as far as if this democratic process in egypt will actually work. >> reporter: well, i mean that's a big unknown. the country seems divided right now but the question is, how divided? how many numbers do these two sides have? if you talk to the supporters of mr. morsi, the supporters of the muslim brotherhood they say we have the big numbers. we have more supporters. and if you talk to the liberals, the moderates, the secularists who launched this campaign to oust mr. morsi, they say, look at the crowds that came out one week ago. there were millions across egypt. we are in the majority. so there is a divide here in moving forward

political and social and economic policy by mr morsi i do think that moves to move provoking but i do think also that the egyptian people are very much and this is where organized the popular revolt against him i hope he will come to you since he will resign and i agree for an early election so you say the light conditions are deteriorating but what makes the protests is we believe life is going to change without morsi. where you will you have to know that as egypt is a very important country and as i have told you that for the last forty years systematically destroyed from inside egypt have a big human potential and human resources highly educated population and there is also a lot of resources what egyptians demand is that a democratic system with a server nuti that if egypt become an independent state decides its own the full subordinate in economy can politics and so on then egypt it can change very quickly in the sixty's egypt is a very important country in the region if it was equal or even better than the economies in brazil and even to certain extent india in egypt can come ba

those supporters of mr. morsi, no doubt many of them will be bitterly angry. the real danger now for egypt is, will the division between mps pro and anti-morsi ca get even worse? in the past few days we have seen some bitter clashes, got a few people getting killed on the streets of cairo and other cities around the country and a lot more injured as well. will those clashes continue, or in the words of the army general, will there be national reconciliation and unity? it is hard to see how that is going to happen, but as far as these people here, and you can see the fireworks to going off, they are not worried about what his supporters think or feel, they are celebrating what they see as an enormous an historic victory. much for allvery your reporting their from cairo. among those calling for him to go is an egyptian american journalist who is a vocal supporter of the revolution which toppled hosni mubarak. she joins me now from new york. i know you are on your way to cairo. you must be excited about would you have seen today. today is a bittersweet day for me.

mr. morsi has been held in custody inside these headquarters and starting yesterday many of mr. morsi's supporters and supporters of the muslim brotherhood marched here to send a message. they say they're going to stay out here until they get him out and send them back to where he belongs. that's the presidential palace and what we've had over the past 24 hours is that very tense face-off where on the right you see about a couple thousand demonstrators. on the left some barricade. behind the barricade the large wire which is [ inaudible ] right now things are -- yesterday it turned violent. they turned -- >> all right, clearly reza sayah's audio is fading and you can hear the crowd and he's standing outside the building where it's believe mohammed morsi is being held. it's not the presidential palace. that's where a number of morsi supporters prefer him to go. >>> all right, cnn's ben wedeman is following developments in cairo. take a look at what happened to him and his crew while finally a live report near tahrir square. >> reporter: come to an end and i'm told -- we're told --

the fact is also that mr. morsiad never proven, despite the fact that he was educated in the united states and by the way did support u.s. polls siss in the middle east to a certain extent so he has to be given some credit for that. but the fact is he didn't do the type of consensus outreach that was necessary instead of the winner take all grab all your power do what you can to sideline and marginalize the secularists who won after all 49% of the vote. and look, i'm also -- i frankly am in favor of abolishing the presidentsy because in egypt that's the real problem. we're all focused in the presidency when in the end what egypt really needs in my judgment is a more representative parliamentary democracy than a presidency where the president whoever he or she may be wins takes all and then tries to marginalize and seize power and in effect almost becomes one vote once. host: you as a former middle east ambassador and presidential adviser, what do you see as the u.s. interests in egypt? the primary interest. guest: w

it's a paid in will be a little more circumspect about voting for somebody like mr morsi who does have a lot of baggage who does have a history of extremism and you know i hope and i think all all men of and women of goodwill hope that egypt moves to an election as quickly as possible gets the military at a power and puts it back in the hands of the civilians but i think the egyptian people the year that is referred to have learned a lot about the process that one election does not a democracy make you can have the election but well there are a lot of elections but that's probably what i do on every single one of them ok. gareth what do you think about the deficit of you know it's you know the the point i would add to what steve has just said is that you know a military coup does not democracy make either you know. the grandkids leafletting a middle point i think that we're looking at straight in the face right no steve you want to reply to that. it's not going to help i agree completely word we're not we're not thrilled that the military did this but the military good didn't just drea

quite ready to bless them and say everything is fine by any means but the fact that they turned back mr morsi is efforts that were moving away from democracy in the military side. the people of egypt does not necessarily mean that there can dam to a cycle of violence and repression again ok name if i go to you but the united states of siding with the military they continue to get their aid at least so far. well first on. july first second third of. july seventh and they might get states was hesitant to. take a position on. in the ship until yesterday this is the spokeswoman of the state department yes that came forward and. condemn it. of former president morsi making clear indications that the united states is in support of the military coup and then you course of action in egypt. it took about that ten days for the united states state department and the white house to make up their mind on on what kind of policies they're going to do for the in egypt finally they said that on against islamic does that hurt and you support of course a faction which is that military will have the main say pol

to step down given the divisions in the country and the fact that mr morsi has only won with fifty one percent of the vote if there is. a new election is there any guarantee that there won't be further chaos again given those divisions. i think this is the big problem isn't it that we have a situation where the constitutional court invalidated the elections to the parliamentary chambers the president's election was certainly disputed by his opponents it was a very narrow result a lot of the people who voted for him then seem no longer to be happy with him now that can happen in any democracy but of course egypt isn't just any democracy it's a country that is suffering a very severe economic crisis it's trying to create institutions of a viable state and democratic system but instead it seems that the changes since the fall of mubarak are really spiraling to a situation out of control and that tends then to suggest that somebody with power real move to calm a step in but of course the generals may be popular with the crowd on the street today if they want to topple morsi but whoever com

they are still calling for the reinstatement of mr. morsi. it looks likely if there is some move to try to move the protesters, that it will lead to further bloodshed and violence. already we have had in just the last month clashes in egypt, more than 260 people killed. in the early hours of saturday morning, there were more than 70 people killed at the main protest site near the mosque. >> i imagine the government is pretty keen to avoid scenes of violence like we have seen in the past, aren't they? >> i would have thought so, too. there is certainly a lot of pressure coming from the international community in particular at the moment. we have had those comments from the eu foreign policy chief who was able to visit mr. morsi just a day ago. we have had comments from the u.s. state department in the past few hours, calling on egypt to recognize the rights of freedom of assembly, including sit-in's. expecting visits from those two u.s. senators, lindsey graham and john mccain, within the coming days. pressure on this government to include all

i mean the muslim brotherhood, mr. morsi supporters are digging in. of course the interim government reached out asking them to be involved in the interim government. they see it as an illegitimate process. being involved in this government, taking position in the cabinet sends a message it is a legitimate process. they don't want to do that. the rightful leader is mr. morsi. it's why we are stuck in this impasse. it's not clear where things are headed. >> fascinating interview. thanks so much. >>> in china, heavy flooding taking a toll there. these pictures from eastern china where a man had to be rescued from raging water. they continue to find dead after days of raining. 31 bodies have been pulled from the sight of a landslide. some 5,100 homes have been destroyed. losses so far, total more than $40 million. >>> now to the story of new jersey's littlest hero. we are going to show you, that is 5-year-old chloe olson. her mom was eating chip at home. one got lodged. she started choking. chloe knew just what to do. dial 911. >> daddy? >> hello. >> dad

mr. morsi's advisers signaled they would not take a coup lying down.ppens if he doesn't respond and the deadline hits in 48 hours? >> it would certainly depend on whether the military follow through with a coup. and if mr. morsi's supporters, the muslim brotherhood, it could come to something very serious something akin to a civil war. the egyptian military might keep in mind the history of military coups, in country after country the military comes in in circumstances of turmoil they're greeted by some segment of the population as the saviors, and then in a very short period of time they become deeply unpopular and ultimately it does bring damage to the reputation and standing of the military. it's not easy, actually, running a country. >> john: has mr. morsi has learned. at this point it's clear he doesn't want to give up his job. what can he and his administration do to avoid a coup? >> well, that's also a difficult question. the obvious thing would be to reach out to the opponents. there are some steps that could be taken making clear, for example,

right agenda that moves in as a result of that and so whichever leader takes place and whatever mr morsi has in the future of egypt moving forward is going to have to broker an arrangement between those far right wing extremists like those in the mode of muslim brotherhood and the rest of the population of egypt and this isn't just for the security and the stability of egypt but also for international relations which is going to be a huge part of the egyptian economy moving forward because a big part is tourism like i spoke about before but it's also the fact that foreign investment has dropped completely off the table because of the presence of the muslim brotherhood in egypt carol and there's been plenty of forces in egypt i've never wanted to see more of these succeed from day one would you agree or disagree with. i would absolutely agree with that i think that you know the support he had right from the outset was quite severely limited. particularly amongst the sort of grassroots revolutionaries. well clearly i mean worst compromise here i mean i mean you know who is going to have to

will be fine but it never works out that way at least in this part of the world now i think that mr morsi and most are in turkey are both in pretty similar positions in that they are clinging on the fact that they were democratic a democratically elected as there are masses in the streets calling for their ouster i would just like to reiterate the previous point that you have to govern in a way that is responsive to the people and neither of these men have done that and so i don't know how they thought this was going to end the further democratically were to this group but they took the loath to the people in of the people demand you to leave now then obviously that's in a way more democratic than your election result ok caroline does the opposition have. the opposition have a plan let's say more as he goes ok do they have a plan. and will they stay together and i think that's the crucial question to ask actually. because the movement has been kind of gotten motion by the grassroots rather than by the political parties are. the liberals and the leftists as it were obviously they're out th

live to discuss the prospects for a country in crisis so welcome to the program here on our team mr morsi says he is legitimate and he's not going anywhere i suppose he has got a point. course he does have a point in that he was elected so the ballot box gave him force is just a myth but what we need to remember and what the country is saying the country other than supporters is that we're not in a normal situation with the morsi came to power on the back of a bitter and he when he was campaigning to be elected if you remember he in the first round he got five million folks in the second round he added eight million on those and therefore got fifteen million votes in he got that extra eight million and promised that he would be a president for only egypt and to do says he actually made even specific promises like that you would have a vice president who was a woman that would bring christians and so on and. the fact is that he did not honor any of these are all inseparably only a year on a year on there are a lot of unfulfilled promises remaining but when it comes to those who are demandi

mr. morsi over the last few days lieu any number of calls from the secretary of state, the president, secretary of defense to his counterpart general assisi the head of the extreme forces that essentially led this military effort against the morsi regime to try to develop some sort of consensus. as a man just reported from cairo, president morsi was absolutely defiant in a speech that was as defiant as it could get against this outporing of anger and anmossity against his regime. the administration, the obama administration has had an extraordinarily difficult time navigating the changes that have taken place within egyptian society. those people have taken to the streets blame washington more or less for sadding up to preds morsi. at the same time, there's no doubt that no one in this administration was particularly comfortable with the anti-democratic autocratic nature of his regime. and so the fact is what i think the administration will want to see is a transition to a technocratic governme

mr. morsi's future? >> i think richard's report is dead on. fact of the matter is we don't know what's going to happen to mr. morsi. we don't know whether or not he's going to call on his supporters to rise up against this -- what he has called a military coup and what the fellow muslim brotherhood leaders call a coup. it's clear the military is rounding up leaders of the muslim brotherhood and more radical elements of egyptian society. at the same time, you have to understand that what has caused this outpouring of anger and resentment against morsi is really a complete deterioration of what essentially results in an economic catastrophe for egypt, number one. and a total breakdown of law and order in the streets of the egyptian cities. these people have been desperate for some restoration of law and order. until the army is able to demonstrate that it is able to turn power over to an elected government, i think a majority of these people are going to want to let the military run the show for the time being. >> yeah, ambassador, let's take a

a lot of people, among the opposition managed to oust mr. morsil it would be a smooth transition into another government, a new government. this is a clear signal there are a lot of people that are not happy and elements to escalate the matter. >> va careious time for sure. thank you for that report. >>> a man is back in jordan facing terrorist charges. he's held in a high security prison. several prominent terrorists including shoe bomber reid turned to him for advice and his writings were consulted by some of the 9/11 hijackers. he claims he's innocent. >> the new leader of the syrian opposition is hoping a new influx of weapons from saudi arabia will turn things around. the country is in a humanitarian crisis and they need advanced weapons to hit back to the military. they won't take part in a peace conference unless they have more success in fighting the assad regime. >> it has been a month since former south african president nelson mandela entered the hospital. he's on life support with his wife by his side. mandela is still said to be in cr

and that is exactly where mr. morsi failed. he and his party had no plan, he offered little in the way of real solutions to the major crisis facing egypt like electricity, shortage of fuel, a spiraling economy, a lack of security, sectarian violence, education and so on. i don't have to go all over the many pills that we went through during this year. moreover, morsi was unpopular. he was whenever the opposite of charisma and his and never got to grips with the grinding problems of poverty and unemployment. egyptian word humiliated when they saw him. can this be the president of egypt? not timbuktu we were talking about, egypt, ninety million people with seven thousand years of civilization. it is very difficult to swallow when people say from the beginning you were all against him. we were not all against him but he didn't have much. he and the brotherhood perceived victories in the elections as mandates to shaped the nation's policy as they deemed fit. overlooking the need to share power and what they fought was to institutio

opponents of mr. morsi here in tahrir square think it's important to put boots on the ground.they're calling for consolidation of power because we have an interim president, but wrangling still going over on what who the new prime minister will be. and supporters also commanding th their president get put back into power. >> thank you very much, karl penhaul. more on the san francisco plane crash straight ahead. how hospitals respond to the range of injuries caused by such a devastating crash. to school, you deserve more than just flexibility and convenience. so here are a few reasons to choose university of phoenix. our average class size is only 14 students. our financial tools help you make smart choices about how to pay for school. our faculty have, on average, over 16 years of field experience. we'll help you build a personal career plan. we build programs based on what employers are looking for. our football team is always undefeated. and leading companies are interested in our graduates. we'll even help you decorate your new office. ok. let's get to work. >>> the plane

. >> many people opposed to mr. morsid liberal forces were incensed that the united states was seemed to be the supporting mr. morsi when he was president. aid continued. high level delegations came and met him and so on. that's part of it. the second part is many people of course felt that ambassador paterson, i think she's, you know, blamed too much and unfairly was, was supporting the muslim brotherhood. many claim that she tried to dissuade people from taking to the streets and tried to encourage them to use other means and so on but then most recently the criticism is not only of the united states government but also of the media of classifying this as a coup. in other words, those who were opposed to morsi have a narrative that this is a large-scale popular protest, a revolution against mr. morsi, that was supported by the military and therefore the discussion in the u.s. media and by some american congresspeople that this is a coup angers them. jenna: interesting. so there's a lot of dynamics at play and that's a b

they believe mr. morsi at the guard headquarters, however the military has said that it you d did not use live fire at the scene. and the health ministry has confirmed one person day in the incident. as in previous days, the crowd is passionate. the muslim brotherhood has set up a line of individuals here that are linking arms to make sure the crowd does not get out of hand to at least try to maintain a bit of order until they reach the republican guard building. you can see that they have coffins draped in the flag. it's a symbolic funeral, the bodies of the dead are not actually there, the police told the organizers that they would not be able to march if they brought actual corpses, it's still at several hundreds yards to the headquarters and so far this march has been peaceful. that is certainly the way that organizers hope it will stay. cnn, cairo. >> a year's long legal battle over whether to deport a radical cleric is over, he was convicted in jordan in 1999 on charges of conspiracy to cause explosio

mr. morsi is under house arrest at an undisclosed location. ulf arab states are generally supportive of the ouster of the egyptian president morsi. united arab emirates, one of the arab world's most outspoken critics of egypt's muslim brotherhood, claims that islamist groups have sought to topple its western-backed really system. saudi arabia's king abdullah sent congratulations message to the egypt interim leader. finally, the brother of colorado democratic senator mark udall has been found dead. he was on a hiking trip in the rocky mountains. udall wasf randy found in a remote area in the mountains of wyoming yesterday. in a statement from his office, senator udall says it appears his brother did die of natural causes, and he thanked searchers for their efforts. some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. one of the points we make in this book is the radio question -- did it make any difference to have popular elections? i think we came down on the side of yes, it did make a difference. the senators began to act like house members, which is

mr. morsi's resignation. only in tahrir square where i was there were about three million egyptians filled with a sense of hope, especially when the army helicopters were flying all over us and dropped the egyptian flag and, also, when we saw the young policemen all clad in white arriving carried on people's shoulders, something that we haven't seen for a year or more since the revolution, because they were reviled, and they had left the streets really. so this was the first sign not only of the police rebelliousness, but also of the solidarity with the people. that very morning i was -- on the 30th of june, i was privy to an urgent meeting at former minister's house and in the presence of -- [inaudible] for the egyptians who are here who was former deputy head of the security forces and the well known writer and 10 or 12 other people representing labor and present syndicates and so on. and we were all wondering why we were gathered there. and the minister told us that they had been in touch with the army, wi

clearly he needs to be putting pressure on mr. morsitelling the egyptian military that receives $1.3 million of american largesse every year that we will not tolerate what we saw before with regard to autocratic politics and military's involvement in domestic affairs. there needs to be some process that produces civilian democratic pluralist politics where all egyptians are equal, regardless of gender, religion and so on. >> what you just said right there, your two-pronged answer is the contradiction i always here. point one, the u.s. has to recognize it has less influence. point two, the u.s. needs to exert pressure to make sure this outcome happens. that seems like what we face here as we watch the countdown toward the ultimatum tomorrow morning. egyptian activist here with me at the table. thank you both. that's "all in" for this evening. the "rachel maddow show" starts right now. >>> thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. there's a lot going on in the news right now, there's a lot going on in our show this hour. to egypt in

well, there's no question that there's a big section of the population, these are the opponents of mr. morsithat want stability, that want this new transitional government to move forward, but standing in their way is the supporters of president morsi, the ousted president morsi, the muslim brotherhood. they don't like the way this process has been unfolded. they say this is a violation of the most basic principles of democracy, and if you look at the possible scenarios, they all seem very unlikely. you can reach out and make peace with the muslim brotherhood, but they say short of reinstating mr. morsi, nothing will satisfy them. this transitional government can get aggressive and stifle the muslim brotherhood, supporters of the ousted president, but this is movement that has decades of enduring oppression. most analysts say they are not going anywhere. you could plausibly wait for them to run out of steam, but at this point, that hasn't happened yet. lots of unknowns, lots of uncertainty that's only adding to the drama in egypt, wolf? >> you see the crowds developing over there. they are s

bum would go too far for mr morsi farmers. let her down. live. this is now i will says in a distant truth somehow we have to look at least to listen to me and to me you have to me the only senator democrat this is how i look up to is this. solemn in almost every woman i met. this is this it was worthwhile it did come to light it's dumb but is that is because we would markets is good not when you do this and with a democrat. to sell it and the profits to come back to the have to feed lots of and then we don't have good markets. we apprehended the government to stop imports and advice from from abroad when to stop and. unless alice now or put it in that would let it slide. but. according to. regulations we come over streets the import of certain items in the country but even then the regulation that we couldn't restricts them petition all these goes off almost concert competently the one of the area we don't want to access is also that because the government does not subsidize and often must produce at the higher costs. so they cannot compete would

mr. morsis a president of muslim brotherhood group only, not for ol egyptians. >> wendy: are you saying things are a lot worse for christians under morsi than they were under mubarak? >> sure. sure. from 2011 to now, a lot of attacks against coptics in egypt. the church properties were hijacked, and kidnappings everywhere. a lot of troubles under the muslim brotherhood er era. we expect more and more under islamic rule. this is islamic rule to discriminate and persecute non-muslims. >> wendy: do you think that the demonstrations planned on his one-year anniversary will turn violent? and how will the military respond? >> i think, sure. it is a matter of time that egypt will go through civil war because the muslim brotherhood and other islamists only believe in power and violence. so they don't keep silent -- they don't believe in peaceful demonstrations, so they will attack the peaceful demonstrations in all of the squares in egypt. egypt is in a crisis, and is really divided into two groups, tw

they say mr. morsi is being treated well and in good condition. they are not giving more details than that. what they have said is so far he has not been charged for any crimes and very much they're trying to characterize this as mr. morsi being held for his own protection. but a week and a half into this military coup, a president and a man who is democratically elected president not charged with any crimes and being held because i put it to the spokesman of the national salvation from one of the main coalitions that backed this military coup have you been allowed to see mr. morsi. have you been able to check that his rights are being preserved. the spokesman for the national front said we haven't seen him at all. so, here, there doesn't seem to be any civilian oversight in the action of the military and certainly as far as we know, mr. morsi continues to be under military custody in an undisclosed location, wolf. >> we're also getting word, karl, from the pentagon from our sources there that the u.s. is still planning on delivering to egypt, to

. >> mr. morsi will be back. will be back. yes, we can.ant to say to obama, yes, we can. >> hey, hey, hey! that is our uplifting slogan to be ironically appropriated and sar castically thrown back into our president's face. get your own! but okay, okay. so muslim brotherhood is angry with america. spoiler alert. that's fine. because at least this week we have morsi's opponents on our side. >> they have their own complaints with the u.s. as this poster makes clear, they believe america was too close to mohammed morsi as his conservative islamic party. >> holy [bleep]. >> so even nations thought of actual muslims think a bomb certificate a secret muslim. of course what neither of those sides understand here is that america's government doesn't especially care whose's running egypt as long as we have influence with them. that is why we send them 1.6 billion dollars in aid each year. that's right. by the way, we send egypt 1.6 billion dollars in aid each year. and we do not want to stop doing that. they're a vital ally for news that part of th

mr. morsi will regain power. >> egypt's military forced the president out of office after he failed to resolve a political deadlock that sent millions of protesters into the streets. violence on monday left more than 50 people dead. it's the highest number since morsi was removed from power. >>> a car bomb has rocked a stronghold of a shia militant group hezbollah in the bustling district of bay route. at least 30 people are reportedly injured. local reporters filmed the aftermath of tuesday's incident. sunni and shia muslims have experienced raised tension as sectarian strife spills over from neighboring syria. hezbollah members are fighting there in support of bashar al-assad. the syrian rebels have threatened to target the shia group in lebanon. >>> investigators are piecing together the moments before a plane crash landed in san francisco. two chinese high school girls died when the asiana airlines passenger jet went down at the city's international airport. the head of the national transpo

now i think thanks to mr. morsi and the abysmal rule of his cohorts in the brotherhood, the military's stock value has risen significantly. so they are seen as the saviors of the country. we'll see how long that lasts, of course. that's likely to change. >> brown: nancy youssef, come in on that question, the role of the military. what are they saying right now and what are people saying about it and what the expectations are >> well, it's a very complicated and i dare say fickle relationship as egyptians have with the military. it's mentioned as egypt's only national organization that represents every segment of society. right now there's overwhelmingly euphoria that the military stepped in and broke this little impasse which has defined the morsi presidency almost from the minute he took office 368 days ago. that said, the 2011 uprising that led to the fall of former egyptian president hosni mubarak was in part about removing the military's grip on the country. yes, there had been civilian presidents for the past s

mr. morsi will regain power. >> egypt's military forced the president out of office after he failed to resolve a political deadlock that sent millions of protesters into the streets. violence on monday left more than 50 people dead. it's the highest number since morsi was removed from power. >>> investigators are piecing together the moments before a plane crash landed in san francisco. two chinese high school girls died when the asiana airlines passenger jet went down at the city's international airport. the head of the national transportation safety board, deborah hersman, said the jet was going too slowly to land. it was going about 190 kilometers per hour just before making contact with the ground. the target speed for landing is about 250 kilometers per hour. she said the pilots were trying to pick up speed to make another attempt at landing. a u.s. television network aired footage of passengers escaping from the wreckage of the airliner. the footage shows people using two escape chutes on

to give a reason for international players that president morsi -- we have a reason for putting mr. morsi under detention now because since he was ousted in july -- on july 3, no clear reason, just for his personal security. >> i want to ask you something before we run out of time. a lot of people see egypt's judiciary as a branch of what the failed state. it senior members were appointed during the mubarak regime. allegations are coming from -- where allegations are coming from? >> this is a big debate in egypt. what i can say now is that the egyptian judiciary, its credibility was undermined about two and a half years after the 2011 uprising. -- nowot classified classified and one of the two camps in egypt. this has to be said without any doubt -- unfortunately the egyptian judiciary, the reaction of the judiciary itself put itself as being classified as one of the two groups against president morsi good i think that is also what president morsi supporters will look for the decision, just as a political decision, not the judicial chip -- decision. >> we are going to have to leave it the

after the minority, knowing that every week there was a church being burned, knowing that every week mr. morsiiolating the law and constitution and the people who voted for him. so if you -- if any -- any measure in that direction, the egyptians have pride, they would not care about the money, but they will never forget the americans that call for freedom, that call for separation of church and religion, that call for free democracy, supporting the fascist regime. >> we have to go, we're monitoring another major news event. we want to make sure we have you back as things develop there. thank you for joining us on the telephone, naguib. >>> the dual mandate is to pursue maximum employment and price stability. currently, we have an unemployment rate of 7.6%, which i think, if anything, overstates the health of our labor markets, given participation rates and many other indicators of underemployment and long-term employment. so we're not there, obviously, on the maximum employment part of the mandate. on price stability, inflation is now about 1%, which is below our 2% objective. so both sides of

. >> mr. morsi will be back, will be back. yes, we can! i will say it to obama. yes, we can. ay reporter: you might think egyptians who helped bring down mohamed morsi by protesting in o hrir square would feel differently about america. but they have their own complaints with the u.s. as this poster makes clear, they believe america was too close to mohamed morsi and his conservative islamic party. achmed saeed is a liberal politician who told us america has let egyptians down. >> after the united states witnessed the dictatorial system by which morsi was ruling, they should have had a stronger impact on them. >> reporter: what should they have done? >> they should have intervened more aggressively and firmly in order to let him feel that he's not going to get american support going out this way. su pelley: holly williams is wining us now above tahrir square in tie roe. holly, saeed said america should have been had more influence, the protesters say less. where does this leave the united states and egypt? >> well, scott, the u.s. has a problem with egypt because america has c