mr. mueller with your plaque and please, mr. mueller please come on up as we palatium this day to be air lingus in san francisco (clapping) >> thank you, mr. mayor. a representative from the state assembly bill couldn't be here but a member of the staff is here to air lingus. i want to ask assembly member to step forward and ask christofi mueller to step forward again as well >> thank you, everyone and good afternoon. i'm norway restrict i'm here on behalf of the assembly member 39 i phil i'm here to present this plaque to air lingus. we want to thank air lingus and mr. moourt for visiting us today and on behalf of the assemblyman phil congratulations on this occasion (clapping.) san francisco o has a strong partnership r with attracting international service. i want to ask you to join in in welcoming sandra (clapping.) thank you, john it's my pleasure to add my thanks to air lingus we're thrilled about the tourism time between our two countries. the tour is the number one tour industry is the growth is strong it's extremely impo

mrs. mueller.in a lime green jacket. and she's floating face up. he actually found her. i believe he used the word pinned under the log and face down. >> reporter: leslie had no pulse. but golob thought there was still hope that she could be revived. fred had caught up, towering over them from the creek embankment. >> he says, "is she dead?" i tell him it's too soon to know. >> reporter: golob sent fred back down the road to look for more help. by then, a small village of first responders had assembled at the start of the trail, among them was hinsdale county sheriff's deputy justin casey. >> we had other officers responding, that we also had the e.m.s. personnel coming in ambulances, and we had fire personnel coming with the fire trucks. >> reporter: dispatch put a call into the local sheriff, ron bruce. >> we had gotten a report of a drowning up on cottonwood creek. and they said they'd keep me advised. >> reporter: and this probably didn't seem totally out of the ordinary for you. >> no. 'cause

mr. mueller, who is the lead agent on this? >> i am sure we can provide information to you. >> we have asked you seven times. we have sent seven inquiries to the department of justice and each time they cannot tell us. mueller did not say that, he said he would get back to us. mr. o'neil, you are acting assistant, and mentioned the integrity? >> yes. >> are you involved in the investigation? >> i would disagree with characterization. >> are you involved? >> i oversee public integrity. >> mr. kuhne, we have heard he is involved. >> i am not familiar with the name. >> who is leading the investigation? >> i will say -- >> you oversee the criminal investigation involved, i want to know -- you did not know, this one the biggest cases and you didn't know who is leading? >> there are leading -- numerous prosecutors -- >> can you tell me how many? i've a tried to get this for 11 months. >> i cannot tell you that. >> is this an important case finding out how first amendment rights were violated and conservative groups were targeted by t

mr. mueller, who is the lead agent on this? >> i am sure we can provide information to you. >> we have asked you seven times. we have sent seven inquiries to the department of justice and each time they cannot tell us. ueller did not say that, he said he would get back to us. mr. o'neil, you are acting assistant, see mentioned the integrity? >> yes. >> are you involved in the investigation? >> i would disagree with characterization. what are you involved? -- ily the investigation oversee public in turkish and -- i oversee public integrity. ihne, we have heard he is involved. >> i am not familiar with the name. but who is leading the investigation? -- queens who is leading the investigation -- >> hole is the leading investigation? --i will say >> you oversee the criminal investigation involved, i want to know -- you did not know, this one the biggest cases a you didn't know who is leading? >> there are leading -- numerous prosecutors -- >> can you tell me how many? i've a tried to get this for 11 months. but i cannot tell you th

i want to send a welcome to lingus to christofi mueller (clapping) joined by a number of digital tars including the mayor of san francisco mayor ed lee. mr. mayor (clapping) for san francisco and the city of cork the

previously, he was chief of staff to robert mueller when he restrictor of the fbi. a career federal prosecutor, mr. carlin served as national court nader of doj's computer hacking and intellectual property program which consisted of 240 prosecutor specially trained to cyber crime and intellectual property cases. he has a lot of background in the area that gave rise to this week's indictment. he has a degree from harvard law speak area and he will for about 45 minutes and then have a q and a with him. i ask that you also answer phones because there are a lot of cameras on in the room. please join me in welcoming john carlin. [applause] >> thank you, ben, for that kind introduction. and great lent to be your brookings today discussing emerging national security threats. a keen fan of the law fair blog. i push it your work on that, as well. on monday, the department of justice announced charges against five members of the chinese military for computer hacking, economic espionage, and other offenses directed at six american victims in the u.s. nuclear power, metals, and solar industries. today i will

>> john mueller from ohio state and cato. mr. wittes the first question. although it does spy on foreign business is none of the information gathered ends up in the hands of american businesses. >> let's add one more if there is one more the gentleman the corner there and then we will give mr. carlin a chance to wrap things up. >> thanks mr. carlin. >> thank you. curious a little bit about the legal line drawing that you've been making in decision throughout between espionage, economic espionage and state driven espionage. as a general matter how important is it that you're able to make a showing of economic benefit to companies, over seas or wherever the case may be. in particular, how would this look different? would it look different under the statutes at play here if there was clearly some sort of commercial information taken with no apparent connection to national security but no real showing that this was going to benefit any particular companies unfairly. how would that change things, just curious as a general matter? >> the floor is yours, there's

mr. mueller said he would give us the information. your the acting assistant for the public integrity division. are you involved in the investigation of the targeting of conservative groups? >> i would disagree with the characterization. >> are you involved in the investigation? >> yes. >> do you know jp cooney? do you know if he is the lead agent? >> i am not familiar. >> who is in charge? >> congressman, this is far afield of the subject of the hearing. oversee the public integrity section. this is one of the biggest cases you've got. >> there are numerous federal prosecutors. >> i have been trying to get this answer for 11 months. >> is this abusiness an importat case -- is this an important case? >> i disagree with the characterization but it is an important case. the agents would be involved from the federal bureau of investigation. i can't give you a precise number. week, 26r this democrats joined republicans and said we should have a special counsel take over this investigation. statements and actions in connection with the mat