mr. mueller that mr. mueller is interested in and anybody else including congressional committees usbehe made a turn after serving mr. trump and 'doing a lot of things not so proud of, and, on july 2, he declared his independence first on abc, then hiring me, and he's ing forward with truth to power as his new life. >> woouff: lanny davis representing michael cohen, we hope we have the opportunity to speak with him a well. >> thank you, judy. >> woodruff: thank you very much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: for another >> woodruff: for another perspective, we turn now to a er attorney general unde president george w. bush, michael mukasey. michael mukasey, welcome to the "newshour". you were able to hear what lanny davis attorney for healthcare just said. given the pleas yesterday, what legal jeopardy is president trump in right now? >> legal jeopardy, not much. political jeopardy, that depends, i guess, on how thebl receives this, but the question is really what gal jeopardy lanny davis' client was in, and i w

mr. mueller has a lot of conflicts also directly. you know that. mr. mueller is highly conflicted. in fact, comey is like his best friend. i could go into conflict after conflict. sadly, mr. mueller is conflicted. let him write his report. we did nothing. there's no collusion. if he was doing an honest report, he would write it on the other side. because when you look at problems, look at what they did, including including with the russians, the other side. i can't hear you too well. turkey has been a problem for a long time. they have not acted as a friend. we will see what happens. they have a wonderful christian pastor, he is a wonderful man, pastor brunson. they made up this phony charge that he is a spy and he is not a spy. he has gone through a trial right now, if you call it a trial. they should have given him back a long time ago. turkey has, in my opinion, acted very, very badly. so we haven't seen the last of that. we are not going to take it sitting down. they can't take our people. you will see what happens. i don't talk about that now. i don't talk about that now. i th

mr. mueller, to question mr. estion, where does he have a constitutional power under the appointments clause. to question whether he thinks at president can be indicted even though department of justice says no. the questioning to explain why despite public report, public report, public report about the fbi, the cia, the fisa report, the dossier, hillary clinton's association with russians, we have russians everywhere! but not with trump! they are with hillary clinton, they are with fusion gps, they are with -- >> sean: bruce ohr. no, this is important. stay on that. they are everywhere! russian lies, assault to fisa judges, not once, mark, four times. lies spread purposely to the american people, that sounds like the former soviet union, mark levin. >> so theou question is, if mr. mueller is such a great prosecutor, why is he blind is about to all of this that is taking place in this country? you want to pursue this, mr. mueller, i can show you a first year law student who knows what to pursue, the fact of the ma

mr. mueller, and i don't want to go any further than that. mr. mueller, in a book that's about to come out in paperback version that i wrote, i liken mr. mueller to a silent deadly submarine under the surface, leak proof with the fuel energized by one thing, facts. facts. something that rudy giuliani doesn't think exists, and that donald trump literally doesn't care when he ignores. and we'll see what mr. mueller comes up with, but i do believe that michael cohen will tell the truth to rudy giuliani and will tell the truth about donald trump. >> appreciate your time. lanny davis, thank you very much. >>> when we come back, stormy daniels attorney says the president's fingerprints are all over the crime scene in collection with the violation of campaign finance laws. now t-mobile has unlimited for the rest of us. unlimited ways to be you. unlimited ways share with others. unlimited ways to live for the moment. all for as low as 30 bucks a line. unlimited for you. for them. for all. get unlimited for as low at 30 bucks per line for four lines at t-m

mr. mueller's office. probably more measured out. maybe they have a weekly call or something, unless there is something really momentous. whatever is happening in fdny is being funneled back to the mueller investigation. caller: good morning. tom, in massachusetts on the democrat line. the question i have, if money is speech and corporations are people, aren't governments people? and therefore, isn't all of this unconstitutional? can't people make secret speech? and is hacking a private institution's email any different than recording a conversation in a private auditorium for donors? so mr. cavanaugh and the supreme court, might we not see 5-4 the whole campaign conservation law totally thrown out as unconstitutional? what do you think? host: big legal questions there. guest: good ones. the government is not a person under the law. there are different legal standards. and donations have been determined to be speech for almost the mid-1970's now by the court, and that does apply to individuals like you and i, and corporations. differe

mr. mueller and i don't want to go any further than that. >> okay. >> mr. mueller, in a book about to come out in paper back version i wrote, i liken mr. mueller to a silent deadly submarine under the surface leak proof, with the fuel energized by one thing, facts, facts, something that rudy giuliani doesn't think exists and that donald trump literally doesn't care when he ignores. and we'll see what mr. mueller comes up with, but i do believe that michael cohen will tell the truth to rudy giuliani and will tell the truth about donald trump. >> appreciate your time. lanny davis. thank you very much. >>> when we come back, stormy daniels's attorney says the president's fingerprints are all over michael cohen and campaign finance laws. michael avenatti, 50i'll talk t him nextment -- next. man: are unpredictable crohn's symptoms following you everywhere? it's time to take back control with stelara®. for adults with moderately to severely active crohn's disease, stelara® works differently. studies showed relief and remission with dosing every 8 weeks. woman: ste

mr. mueller has a lot of you know that. mr. molly -- mueller is highly conflicted. tell me is his best friend. mr. mueller is conflicted but let me by his -- let him write his report. if he was doing an honest report he would write it on the other side. because when you look at criminality and problems, take a look at what they did including colluding with the russians, the other side. >> [inaudible] president trump: i can't hear you too well. you have the helicopter. turkey has been a problem for a long time. they have not acted as a friend. we will see what happens. they have a wonderful christian pastor, he is a wonderful man, they made up this phony charge that he is a spy and he is not a spy. he is going through a trial right now, if you go it -- call it a trial. they should have given him back a long time ago. in my opinion acted very badly. we have not seen the last of that area and we're not owing to take it sitting down. they cannot take our people. you will see what happens. >> [inaudible] president trump: i do not talk about that now. i think the whole ma

mr. mueller and mr. mueller has a lot of conflicts or so. he's highly conflicted and sadly mr. mueller is conflicted and let him write his report. we did nothing and there is no conclusion. >> the response came two days after the white house revoked the security clearance of john brennan. the white house is also reviewing the clearances of nine others not including mueller. let's start the conversation on this friday with jeff bennett, he's at the white house. just so we are clear, jeff, the president was asked about revoking security clearances. he brengs he mentioned bruce's name and then he mentioned mueller's name. he says mueller should write his report. tell us more of the president's thinking if you can jeff on this topic. >> reporter: one way to interpret this is president trump is walking right up to the line. he knows taking steps to shut down the russia investigation would blow back on him so instead what he's doing is he's hitting robert mueller and the special counsel team over and over again as a way of discrediting any of their findings. the president is doing thi

mr. mueller from being removed by the president of the united states.ation can continue so i think we can't ju jump ahead. obviously that statement by mr. cohen is a game changer in that it's a statement from co-defendant or co-conspirator saying the president directed this criminal wrongdoing. very serious. >> it is serious. >> the fact you say you know it hasn't crossed the impeachment threshold for you yet. is that for purely political reaso reasons? is there concern of impeachment. just stir up the base. do you prefer and think it will be effective to pith and use what nancy pelosi said. culture corruption. if that were out there, is that more effective than impeachment. >> i don't know if it's a question of being more effective. the removal of a president of the united states is a very serious action. we have to make sure the american people understand the conduct after the president. understand the allegations that have been levelled against him. there has to be a conclusion on the investigation. this is big monumental thing to remove a president.

mr. mueller that mr. trump would decline an interview. but the president, who believes he can convince mr. mueller that he is innocent, pushed his lawyers to continue negotiating. whenever you read that perhaps in "the new york times" and elsewhere, you might want to re-write the last line in your head to something like this possible alternative. but the president, who knows he can never convince mr. mueller that he is innocent, pushed his lawyers to continue negotiating in order to delay the mueller investigation so that the president can then publically complain that the mueller investigation is still going on. that complaint is, of course, not limited to the president. the president's lawyers, who are actually delaying the investigation by proposing restrictions on a presidential interview they know the special prosecutor cannot accept, are also publically complaining that the special prosecutor has not yet finished his work. the president's lawyer rudy giuliani told "the new york times" today we are re-stating what we have said for mo

mr. mueller. >> i should point out, bruce orr, his testimony behind closed doors is now over. he spent eight hours answering only republican answers. not one democrat decided to attend. it is over with. anything you would like to say before i let you go, congressman? >> no. i suspect we'll have bruce orr before the committee the way peter strzok was brought after a lengthy interview. again, this is an effort to distract from the serious investigation of mr. mueller. i wish my colleagues on the committee would focus on protecting the 2018 elections, making sure we end the separation policy, doing oversight of officials that continue to spend money and engage in very, very wasteful practices and asked to leave office because of corruption. let's do our job and focus on the things that face the american people. finally, this is an example, again, wolf, the white house in scandals and investigations and lawyers. as a result, the work of the american people is not getting done, driving down health care

mr. mueller's attention. the only person we don't see on television is mr. eller and i'm certain if he's interested in mr. cohen's testimony they will obtain in the the proper way but it won't be, in my opinion, from one of his lawyers trying to sell it on television. that suggests to me they don't need it. >> and that could be read as being concerning to the white house? >> absolutely. >> john sale important information, thank you for joining me. >> thank you for having me. >> $14,000 vacations. $11,000 runs to costco. here's the problem -- a republican congressman and his wife allegedly used campaign money to pay for it. details about their indictment ah ahead. rvivor of alzheimer's disease is out there. and the alzheimer's association is going to make it happen. but we won't get there without you. join the fight with the alzheimer's association. with tough food, your dentures may slip and fall. new fixodent ultra-max hold gives you the strongest hold ever to lock your dentures. so now you can eat tough food without worry. fixodent and forget it. i'm a smal

mr. purely -- mueller who was best friends with comey. what a disaster. mr. ind his 17 left wing democratic donor prosecutors. where the hell is congress? i want to know what mr. mueller thinks he can do under our constitution and under the department of justice memos. >> sean: when i say tick-tock. something big is coming that will blow this all out of the water. thanks for joining us? >> the great one, mark levin. scott will join us saying the president is the most pro-african-american president in his lifetime. we have the numbers next. it's the ford summer sales event and now is the best time to buy. preparing classic campfire trout. say what? trout. trout. all right. you don't think i need both? why does he have that axe? make summer go right with ford america's best selling brand. now get 0% financing for 72 months plus $1,000 ford credit bonus cash on a great selection of suv's. during the ford summer sales event, get our best offer of the season 0% financing for 72 months plus $1,000 ford credit bonus cash. 0% financing for 72 months plus i'm a fighter

the judge said that to mueller's team. mr. speaker, thank you for being with us. one, mark levin, he wants to weigh in on all things to mueller, manafort, and much more. straight ahead. ♪ woman: it felt great not having hepatitis c. it's like a load off my shoulders. i was just excited for it to be over. harvoni is a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. it's been prescribed to more than a quarter million people and is proven to cure up to 99% of patients who have had no prior treatment with 12 weeks. certain patients can be cured with just 8 weeks of harvoni. before starting harvoni your doctor will test to see if you've ever had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after harvoni treatment. tell your doctor if you've ever had hepatitis b, a liver transplant, other liver or kidney problems, hiv or any other medical conditions and about all the medicines you take including herbal supplements. taking amiodarone with harvoni can cause a serious slowing of your heart rate. common side effects of

mr. mueller has to consult mr. rosenstein his boss to figure out what to do with the subpoena.n they issue it, the president takes it to the supreme court. what does he cite? department of justice memos. what else does he cite? the constitution of the united states. this will be an impeachment battle in the end. the president of the united states if he doesn't get involved in the perjury trap -- think about that. they don't have a crime. he needs the interview to create a crime against the president of the united states. this prosecutor. well, that is outrageous. so in any event i want the news media to understand. you know what took place in the southern district of new york? nothing that matters. zippo. there was no violation of the federal campaign laws. lanny davis blew it. davis puts out a tweet today. today, cohen stood up and testified under oath that donald trump directed him to commit a crime. you are a dummy, lanny. by making payments to two women for the purpose of influencing an election. if those payments were a crime for michael cohen then why wouldn't they be a c

mr. mueller has to consult mr. rosenstein, his boss, to figure out what to do with the subpoena.ou what happens when the issue that subpoena, the president of united states takes it all away to the supreme court and what is he do? department of justice memos. what else does he cite? constitution of the united states. so this is going to be an impeachment battle in the end. the president of the united states, if he doesn't get involved in the perjury trap -- think about that. they don't have a crime. he needs this interview to create a crime! against the president of united states! this prosecutor! well, that's pretty outrageous. in any event, i want the news media to understand, you know what took place in the southern district of new york, and i think that matters. zippo. there was no violation of federal campaign laws. lanny davis blew it, lanny davis -- -- lanny davis, he put a tweet today. today, cohen stood up and testified under oathec that donald trump directed him to commit a crime. you are a dummy, lanny. when making payments to two women's for the principal purpose of i

mr. mueller issue his report and say what he has to t in the white house that increasingly, the president has said that he wants to bury the mueller report when it's written and make sure it never reaches the congress of the united states but rather he believes and he probably is right, has the power that the report not go to the congress of the united states. that it stay within the deputy attorney general purview, rod rosenstein or whoever is in that position. that seems to be the case that could happen under the guidelines for the special prosecutor. we keep coming back to the question of why is there a cover- cover-up? why isn't the president saying i'm an open book with russia. let's open the books up. let's get everybody in here. show what happened. show what didn't happen. get on with the business of the nation. instead we see the president of the united states who may be the grav gravest threat of all to the national security of the united states, stand in helsinki next to vladmir putin, obvious lly trying to stroke vladmir putin. what happened in helsinki. we still don't know. th

mr. mueller not under oath. would mr. trump have his interview instead of with fox, would he do it under oath and then see whether he tells the truth under oath? mr. giuliani claims that that would be a perjury trap. we all know that when you tell the truth there's no perjury. >> so when the president was in michael cohen's words directing and coordinating with him to go ahead and make these hush money payments, do you believe the president knew this potentially could be illegal? >> there's no question. or why would he keep it secret? he did it through mr. cohen, $130,000 with mr. cohen having to borrow from his equity line. if he didn't want to keep it a secret, why didn't he write a check and sign the check himself? >> well, he could make the john edwards argument, he was trying to keep it secret so his wife wouldn't know about it. >> but your question is why did he do it? was he trying to keep it secret? the answer is if he wasn't trying to keep it secret he wouldn't have used mr. cohen as a conduit rather than doing i

mr. mueller's entire investigation as the one that just came out a few months ago. about how prosecutors do lie to push their case. the prosecutor we are dealing with in terms of mr. mueller is someone using a series of witnesses for his case that have serious problems, credibility problems on a personal level and even recently with regard to michael cohen. i know that was in a different court system. but that was originally brought to the attention by michael cohen. you have a series of witnesses that mr. mueller has to make his case almost all of whom have severe credibility problems. how can you make a case with that? >> that's standard operating procedure for mr. weissmann as you mentioned in my book, "license to lie." they make sweetheart deals with the people who are the real criminals and put the screws to them to try to get them say things that incriminate people higher up that are the real targets that the prosecutors want, whether they did anything wrong or not. two defendants in the enron litigation in related cases had to be allowed to withdraw their gui

mr. mueller has a lot of conflicts also directly yourself. you know that. mr. highly conflicted. in fact, comey is like his best friend. i could go into conflict afflict. but sadly mr. mueller is conflicted. let him write his report. we did nothing, there's no collusion. if he was doing an honest report, he would write it on the other side. >> kim, we know the final decision is about george papadopoulos' sentence lies with the judge, but you have these kind of statements almost daily. could this have an impact? >> i think it's unlikely a judge would pay attention to it. the bigger issue is, does a jury in both mr. manafort's trial, and any future trials would pay attention to this. i think it could persuade people to not pay attention and buy into the false narrative that he's somewhat conflicted. i think on the sentencing memo, i think everyone should pull it up and read it. it's quite interesting. it lay us order in plain english, once upon a time there was someone who reached out or was contacted about meeting with a russian national during the campaign. he

mr. mueller is conflicted. but let him write the report. we did nothing. there's no collusion. >> reporter: "the times" reporting, quote, mr. mcgahn was also centrally involved in mr. trump's attempt to fire the special counsel, which mcgahn resisted. his cooperation with the special counsel stem from a decision by the president's first team of criminal lawyers, "the times" report. in a statement, white house press secretary sarah sanders said, quote, the president and don have a great relationship. but two senior administration officials tell abc news say the two have a frayed relationship. according to "the times," mcgahn has called the president king kong behind his back given his volcanic anger. >> tara, we don't know how his cooperation has affected the special counsel's investigation so far. but tonight, the president's lawyers are responding. >> that's right, rudy giuliani tells me that he's confident that mcgahn didn't hand over any evidence that's remotely harm to the president. trump's former lawyer john dowd called mcgahn a strong witness. tom. >

mr. mueller, with donald trump. this all comes as the wife of one of mueller's targets george papadopoulos who was just on with tucker is calling for her husband to scrap that plea deal that he made with mueller and sue the government. we'll let you know if papadopoulos takes his wife advice. by the way, takes on the aggressive tactics of team mueller. a lot of ground, a lot of news we are breaking. joining us now, investigative reporter fox news contributor sara carter, author of the now three weeks in a row number one "new york times" best seller. "the russian hoax: the illicit scheme to clear hillary clinton and frame trump." and judge pirro was number one. you knocked her off. >> she is a friend. i feel badly. >> sean: you don't feel badly about that. you want to be number one. stop. you are full of it. you are happy you are number one. that is okay. she made number one, too. all right. sara. go back to last night and then let's go to the developments we have today. steele writing ohr, hey, any news? we're a bit

mr. mueller. at's a very different lindsey graham over the last year and a half than in this letter today. >> we've heard since the beginning of the mueller investigation last year that republicans on capitol hill by and large support mueller doing his job. that's the message we've gotten for some time. as the investigation has gone on for more than a year now, you are starting to sense that impatience from republicans. they're telling us in different ways, you know, they still say, look, we support the mueller investigation. we should do his job. but they are signaling very strongly that they're getting quite impatient, especially before the midterms. >> the republicans control the house and the senate. is this the right approach to it? they've brought this up in some hearings. they bring it up when rod rosenstein's in the chair and beat him up a little. have they or will they -- why not have a series of public hearings? they have the power. they have the committees. call these people up to answer

mr. mueller has been pretty tightlipped, as he should be.is clear that rudy giuliani and the president have been saying this all has to be wrapped up by the first of september or there will be political consequence. is that right? could it hurt the democrats because it appears partisan? rep. quigley: i think rudy wants it to end because it is embarrassing to the president. the president's former campaign chairman closing arguments are taking place. his former national security adviser has pled guilty about meeting with the russians, about sanctions. his personal attorney is making noises and giving indications he might very well flipped on the president. he continues to call it a witch hunt and i think ready has got this the wrong way. issues coming out in november, doesn't that underscore the point? we had this issue with mr. comey and there's the perception that whether you are republican or democrat, people want this thing wrapped up. rep. quigley: if a poll told me they wanted this closed down, i would tell them it still needs to take pl

mr. mueller has set a perjury trap. let's assume mr. is trying to determine whether i had a cup of coffee onset today. he interviews the camera man. he interferes the gentleman who mic'd me up. interviews the makeup artist who did her best to make me camera ready this kmormorning and he h pretty good picture of the evidence supporting the notion that i had a cup of koof coffee morning. he then invites me in for an interview. i said i did not have a cup of coffee this morning. mr. giuliani would call that a perjury trap. let's work with that loaded term. if it's a perjury trap, doesn't take houdini to escape from it. all you have to do is tell the truth. i would suggest every time mr. giuliani says that mr. mueller is setting a perjury trap for the president, the american people should hear that as the president is either unwilling or incapable of coming in and telling the truth. >> got to get a forensic expert to test what is in my cup. want to get you to react to this back and forth. this is something that's been promulgated by the pres

mr. mueller has a lot of conflict also. mr. mueller is highly conflicted.n fact, comey is like his best friend. i could go into conflict after conflict. host: former cia director john brennan responded to president trump taking his security clearance last night on the rachel maddow show on msnbc. [video clip] "washington journal [no audio] >> [no audio]n journa host: let's go to marry. -- mary. caller: i'm calling from detroit. usr.o and good morning, that's what we are turning into, a banana republic. host: let's go to john calling from palm springs, california. john, good morning. caller: good morning. we are losing a lot of intelligence experience from both parties for many, many decades. i think this is a very bad idea that we remove security clearances just for political revenge. host: thank you, john. let's go to emily calling from san francisco, california. good morning, annalee. -- good morning, emily. caller: hello. i'm very pleased with this president. i think this is a good way to respectinging back some for the fbi. brennan has expanded the cia

mr. mueller was appointed, there was no criminal statutes cited by mr. rosenstein and his appointment in the first place. >> rosenstein is another one that apparently, there were members of congress who wanted to impeach. leadership would not let them go forward with it.it is almost as of the establishment is in line with the democrats based on a false dossier paid for by hillary clinton. she is at the genesis of all of this. let me ask you this, you and i both know that the president and we know that he does want to talk. and if every lawyer around him was saying, this should not be done. not just because we want you to or don't but constitutionally itshould not be done. what do you think the presidents base wants here ? >> i think his political base wants the president of the nice tasty fire everybody. and he better not do that. >> why? >> because every democrat in the house and one third of the republicans in the senate will vote to impeach him. what's the point of that? when i think he can win it duking itout through the system . if it comes to the p

jeff sessions and other department officials and even attempted to fire mueller from the special counsel. he examined whether mr. trump obstructed justice, a clear view of the president's most intimate moments with his lawyer. and rudy giuliani tweeting this after, time for the mueller investigation to file a report. we will release ours. don't interfere with election like comey. and if you're still holding out any hope the president himself might cooperate and answer questions from the special counsel, well, read his tweets this morning. listening to this it's time to reconsider. >> mr. mueller is highly conflicted. in fact, comey is like his best friend. i could go into conflict after conflict. but sadly mr. mueller is conflict. but let him write his report. we did nothing. there's no collusion. >> comey is not his best friend. that's another lie the president likes to repeat. but he's up early this morning tweeting again about this story. publicly the white house is trying to take a ho-hum about this saying the president is cooperating, don megan is cooperating and the president callatize a fake piece and, y

mr. mueller. >> shepard: good to talk to you. thank you. >> certainly. >> shepard: the other breaking news we're following a live look at allentown, pennsylvania where the district attorney is announcing the first charges to come from that bomb shell grand jury report on predator priests in six of the eight diocese in the state of pennsylvania. could justice finally come for some of the victims that have waited so long? we're monitoring the news conference and have developments in this hour. first, still waiting a verdict in the trial of president trump's former campaign chairman. jurors asking what it means for the entire verdict if they're not on the same page on at least one of the counts. we'll head to the courthouse for the new developments there. we're continuing to follow a jet that has been circling four hours now after it blew tires on take off from teterboro, new jersey in route to london. among those on board, rapper post malone that last night won the record of the year at the video music awards. that emergency landin

mr. mueller is conflicted. let him write his report. there is no collusion. >> tonight, what this could do to the mueller investigation. >> i think the manafort trial is sad. >> did the president just try to taint the manafort jury? >> i think it is sad to what they have done to manafort. >> bad news for president trump's desire to have a big show. >> a great parade to show our military strength. >> that parade canceled. "all in" starts right fou. >> good evening from new york. i will ali velshi in for chris hayes. faced with extraordinary backlash. the president today defended the move as payback for the russia investigation. and vowed to go further. tonight, 60 former cia officers are condemning what they described as an attempt to punish brennan. they join 30 national security and intelligence chiefs who publicly rebuke the president trump overnight in a rare joint statement writing we all agree that the president's action regarding john brennan and the threats of similar actions against other former officials has nothing to do with

mr. mueller has a lot of conflict, also, directly yourself. so you know that mr. r is highly conflicted. in fact, comey is like his best friend. i could go into conflict after conflict. but sadly, mr. mueller is conflicted. but let him write his report. we did nothing. there is no collusion. but if he was doing an honest report, he would write it on the other side because, when you look at accurately and you look at problems, take a look at what they did, including colluding with the russians, the other side. >> judge jeanine: also tonight today was the second day of deliberations in the paul manafort trial. the jury has not yet delivered a verdict. they deliberated though for over 14 hours. the trial is now in recess until monday morning. president trump was asked about the manafort trial today and here's what he had to see you about it. >> i think the whole manafort trial is very sawed. when you look at what's going on there. i think it's a very sad day for our country. he worked for me for a very short period of time. but you know what? he happens to be a very g

mr. mueller, to do with collusion. zero, mr. mueller, to do with the 2016 campaign, and zero, mr. eller, to do with donald trump. this all comes as the wife of one of w mueller's targets, geoe papadopoulos,, just on the tucker, calling for her husband to scrap that plea deal that he made with mueller and sue the government. we'llpa let you know if papadopoulos takes his wife's advice. by the way, the aggressive tactics of mueller. a lot of ground cover news we are breaking. joining us now, investigative reporter, fox news contributor sara carter. author of the now three weeks in a row number one "new york times" best seller, "the russian hoax: the illicit scheme to clear hillary clinton and dream donald trump" fox news legal analyst gregg jarrett. judge jeanine pirro was number one but you knocked her off. i think you are doing pretty good rates because she's a friend, i feel badly. >> sean: you don't feel badly about that. you want to be number one. you are full of it. are happy you are number one.be it's okay. you made number one, too. sara, let's go back to last night and let's

don't assume that he hasn't met with mr mueller, but don't assume that he has.ent on. i can tell you this, what he knows about mr trump's behaviour, including the issue of the hacking by a russian government agency called wikileaks, and the notification of that hacking ahead of time, which any ordinary citizen would immediately say, "a foreign government, doing what? i'm calling in the police," there is a possibility that my client will help contribute to mr mueller‘s enquiry about that subject. look, last one, a lot of people are going to say your client is a crook, definitely a crook, he's going to go to jail. your client has lied consistently about all the things that robert mueller or anyone wants to talk about. he's lied about the stormy daniels payments in the pretty recent past. why on earth would anyone believe a word your client says?" don't believe michael cohen, my client, simply look at what was written by the prosecutors, in which the prosecutor said, and my client repeated, "the candidate," referring to donald trump, "directed and co—ordinated the

mr. mueller.cted this professionally, quietly, and we'll see where it lands. >> john podesta, you seem to know a lot because you've done a lot. i appreciate you coming on "the beat." i hope you'll come back. >> thanks, ari. be happy to. >>> up ahead, sam nunberg is here live to talk about a big new fight over money and politics and trump. and that's when we're back in just 30 seconds. on earth ♪ uhp. i didn't believe it. again. ♪ ooh, baby, do you know what that's worth? ♪ i want to believe it. [ claps hands ] ♪ ooh i'm not hearing the confidence. okay, hold the name your price tool. power of options based on your budget! and! ♪ we'll make heaven a place on earth ♪ yeah! oh, my angels! ♪ ooh, heaven is a place on earth ♪ [ sobs quietly ] >>> the other top story tonight is one you may not have heard as much about, but boy does it matter. an unusual battle within conservative politics. the koch brothers have spent half a billion dollars since 2012, one of their aides clapping back at trump's divisiv

mr. mueller mr. trump would decline an interview, but the president who believes he can convince mr. mueller he is innocent pushed his lawyers to continue negotiating. it's the rare instance in which robert mueller and donald trump want the very same thing, which is striking especially in light of new reporting we brought you earlier this week from a source close to the trump legal effort who tells us that there are serious concerns the president may have already engaged in conduct that leaves him vulnerable to charges of witness tampering and obstruction of justice. joining us to discuss today's development, some of our favorite reporters and friends. daniel goldman is a form assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york now an msnbc contributor. heilman is back. he's an msnbc and msnbc national affairs analyst. >> i'm like madonna at this point. >> i gave you one name. some day you'll thank me. we'll talk about that later. daily beast politics editor sam stein is here and my friend steve schmidt. we're going to boil you down to one name, too. >>> take us through the

mr. mueller has a lot of conflicts also directly yourself, so you know that mr. mueller is highly conflicted in fact, comey is like his best friend i could go into conflict after conflict, but sadly mr. mueller is conflicted. but let him write his report we did nothing there's no collusion but if he was doing an honest report, he would write it on the other side, because when you look at criminality and problems, take a look at what they did, including colluding with the russians, the other side i can't hear you from the helicopter turkey has been a problem for a long time. they have not acted as a friend. we'll see what happens they have a wonderful christian pastor, he's a wonderful man, pastor brunson they made up this phony charge that he is a spy and he is not a spy. he's gone through a trial now, if you call it a trial they should have given him back a long time ago. and turkey has in my opinion acted very, very badly so we haven't seen the last of that we are not going to take it sitting down they can't take our people so you will see what happens. i don't

seems to the interesting to the mueller investigation. mr.afort had not been cooperating -- now whether he will be cooperating as well with mr. mueller. he has a sentence that still has to come from the judge. he faces seven to 10 years. rishaad: there are the upcoming midterms. what happens? jodi: under a republican-led congress, he would not have any impeachment. if democrats retake the congress, that is where they would start in the house, an impeachment process. that is on everybody's mind. the democrats are not saying that in their campaign strategy, but campaign ads coming out in the last day are saying it is time for democrats to take action. rishaad: we are counting down to the fed's gathering in wyoming. the dollar getting more support. what is driving the move? sophie: the bloomberg dollar index is rising for the first in the day. dooost as regional funds last-minute portfolio rebalancing. you have the on short yuan set to step a five-day -- onshore yuan set to snap a five-day gain, now 98 against the dollar. i want to note the auss

mr. mueller has a lot of conflicts, also. directly yourself. so you know that. mr. mueller is highly conflicted. in fact, comey is like his best friend. i could go into conflict after conflict. but sadly mr. mueller's conflicted. >> reporter: the president encouraging mueller to wrap things up. >> let mihm write his report. we did nothing. there's no collusion. >> reporter: now, jake, the big question now is whether or not the president is actually going to follow through on the threats to strip other officials of the clearances or if they're just that -- empty threats. jake? >> all right. kaitlan collins at the white house for us. the list of members of the intelligence community, former members, former senior leaders and now including bob gates, cia director during h.w. bush's reign, gates, unusual for this. >> it's very unusual. frankly. i think the president has admitted that this is reprisal and this is unprecedented. we haven't seen this before. i think by revoking brennan's or trying to revoke brennan's clearance he's sending a message to the others. you bette

mr. mueller has a lot of conflicks also, directly, yourself. so you know that. mr. mueller is highly conflicted, in fact, comey is like his best friend. i can go into conflict after conflict. sadly, mr. mueller is conflicted. >> reporter: the president urging mueller to wrap things up. >> have him write up his report. we did nothing. there is no collusion. >> one thing is for sure, john brennan is not keeping quit over all of this. >> not by any mean the former cia director under president obama has been highly critical of mr. trump. he says mr. trump's claims with no collusion with russia. he says they are quote hogwash. after he was stripped of his security clearance, he said it was a part of a broader effort to punish critics and should warn all americans. >> his most stinging words came friday night when he said this. >> he's trump on power. he really s. i think he's abusing the powers of that office. i think right now this country is if a crisis in terms of what mr. trump has done and is libel to do. and so are the republicans on the hill who have given him a pa

mr. mueller has a lot of conflicts also, directly yourself. so you know that. mr. conflicted. in fact, comey is like his best friend. i could go into conflict after conflict, but sadly mr. mueller is conflict. but let him write his report. we did nothing. there's no collusion. but if he was doing an honest report he would write it on the other side. >> all right. so in another series of tweets yesterday, president trump insisted that white house lawyer don mcgahn isn't a rat and referenced the white house watergate era attorney that turned on richard nixon. he tweeted, "the new york times" wrote a fake piece implying the white house council don mcfwan was giving hours of testimony to the special counsel. i allowed him and all others to testify. i have nothing to hide. i have demanded transparency so this rigid witch hunt can come to a close. mccarthyism at its worse. yet mueller and his gang of dems refuse to look at crimes on the other side. media is even worse. he wrote, i still have trouble using the title mr. president for someone installed by putin. i doubt you

mr. mueller wants to subpoena the president, he can try but he is going to lose and the reason is simple. already interviewed the president's lawyer, mr. mcgann come for 30 0 hours, anything that he learnedt from him, that is the president's knowledge. the president, therefore, under the law, is not readily available, under no obligation to testify, and if mr. mueller pursues the subpoena, he will lose it in the supreme court because he already has the information he needs and then there is one more very important thing. he is using the grand jury for impeachment. an unconstitutional use of the grand jury. that is another reason he's going to lose. you cannot use grand jury subpoenas to get testimony -- >> sean: what he will do, joe, and 70 days from now, we know that we're going to have an election, in my opinion, what mueller will do, he'll write a road map for the democratic party to impeach president trump. >> absolutely. this is an impeachment investigation, as far as it concerns the president of the o united states. any notion that it was designed to get an illegality concerning the

mr. mueller is conflicted. but let him write his report. we did nothing. there's no collusion. >> here we go again. the old i know you are, but what am i strategy. robert mueller is a former director of the fbi who was nominated by president george w. bush. his appointment as special counsel has been upheld by four federal judges. most recently by a judge appointed to the bench by president trump himself. but that didn't stop trump from returning to the baseless charge he's thrown around again and again. >> look, i say it. i say it again. that whole situation is a rigged witch hunt. it's a totally rigged deal. they should be looking at the other side. >> so the fact is, mueller's investigation has already resulted in 191 criminal charges against 35 defendants and five guilty pleas so far. and in the face of all this, the white house is scrambling to spin the president's actions. kellyanne conway today offering a defense you might call pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. >> why is everybody so obsessed with the president of the united states? yo

mr. mueller to have all the tools he needs, all the access that he needs, including the president of thenited states in order to complete his investigation. the president said earlier that he would cooperate. well, cooperate means what mr. mueller needs, whether it's live interviews with the president, whether it can be handled through questions, that's a decision for mr. mueller to make and i would hope the president would cooperate. >> thanks so much for joining us. >>> there's more breaking news ahead. a russian spy unmasked after working inside the united states embassy in moscow for more than a decade. >>> plus, bombshell testimony in the trial of former trump campaign chairman paul manafort. we have details. fact is, every insurance company hopes you drive safely. but allstate helps you. with drivewise. feedback that helps you drive safer. and that can lower your cost now that you know the truth... are you in good hands? it's a high-tech revolution in sleep. the new sleep number 360 smart bed. it intelligently senses your movement and automatically adjusts on each side to keep you

mr. mueller has a lot of conflict, also, directly yourself. so you know that mr. mueller is highly conflicted. in fact, comey is like his best friend. i could go into conflict after conflict. but sadly, mr. mueller is conflicted. h but let him write his report. we did nothing. there is no collusion. but if he was doing an honest report, he would write it on the other side because, when you look at accurately and you look at problems, take a look at what they did, including colluding with the russians, the other side. >> judge jeanine: also tonight today was the second day of deliberations in the paul manafort trial. the jury has not yetod delivered a verdict. they deliberated though for over 14 hours. the trial is now in recess until monday morning. president trump was asked about the manafort trial today and here's what he had to say about it. >> i think the whole manafort trial is very sawed. when you look at what's going on there. i think it's a very sad day for our country. he worked for me for a very short period of time. but you know what? he happens to be a