mr. mulally thinks it is going to be mr. mulally" and he was throwing cold water on the speculation he would be stepping down. does it change your attitude toward the stock and what's your opinion of that? >> anything that gets alan in through 2013 to 2014 i think would be a positive investors. they are clearly positioning the next generation, people like mark fields and even joe hendricks but where investors i talked to would like to see mark, eye deemly through when the new pickup trucks come out 2014 and to steer europe back toward break even, which is probably the biggest overhang on the stock. >> mickey, i do agree? mr. mulally's shoes would be big to fill. if it is indeed mr. fields' eventually, does it change your opinion and what you think about the company and how it is moving forward? >> sue there are never any guarantees, if you look at the three men ceos in detroit, none were detroit-bred ceos. they have all come from other place. so, i think there's no guarantee, even if mark fields gets to be the cheap operating

mr. mulally himself. maybe people were looking into who might be his successor at some point or whether or not he would be doing that. that's not the case. you can see that's down just fractionally right now. back to you. dagen: thank you, nicole. i know it is like a 58% annualized return over ten years for apple. that's incredible stuff. but our top story today, comments made by g.o.p. presidential nominee mitt romney at a closed-door campaign event causing major controversy for the campaign today. dagen: much to talk about, the economic reality, and the political fall out, first to peter schiff, ceo of europe pacific capital. peter, your take -- euro pacific capital, peter your take? >> you know, they now depend on the welfare state because of the adverse effects that it's had on the economy and the perverse effects it has on individual incentives, government programs breed dependency. romney is right. he's not going to be able to explain that in a 30 second sound bite. dagen: i have some numbers on tha