mr. mulcair: mr. harper is once again eschewing responsibility. he has had six excessive deficits. wages are shrinking. he continues to try and tell people that we need to stay the course, the people at home know that. they know that this economy is now working for them. we need a fresh approach that understands the way to create growth and the canadian economy is to strengthen the middle class and make sure that people have jobs in confidence and the capacity to spend and be sure about the future. mr. harper has continued to give tax breaks to the wealthiest, and that is not actually stimulated -- that has not stimulated our economy and that is why canada is growing less fair. canadians right across the country are looking for a change the better approach and a better plan for the economy. that's exactly what the liberal party -- mr. harper: we have not only a balanced budget, we have the lowest of debt levels in the g7 by a country mile. we have by far the best fiscal situation going forward -- mr.

mr. mulcair: the problem mr. harper has on that one is he refuses to sit down and talk with the premiers. it's just not showing leadership. we have a federation that needs people to sit down and talk about barriers, talk about climate change, talk about how we will get canadians ahead and uncertain economy. he has simply refused to engage with provincial leaders, whether it's on trade barriers, climate change, trading or job creation -- that is quite frankly not the kind of leadership that a broad and diverse country like canada needs from a prime minister. mr. harper: the premiers in the federal government are working together on breaking down trade barriers. we have the new west partnership and we made significant progress, but more importantly, we have increased the number of countries with which we concluded trade deals from five to 44. the entire european union, with a foothold in asia. no government has opened up trade opportunities for canadian companies and canadian workers like this. ms. may: but the kor

mr. mulcair: the problem mr. harper has on that one is he refuses to sit down and talk with the premiers. it's just not showing leadership. we have a federation that needs people to sit down and talk about barriers, talk about climate change, talk about how we will get canadians ahead and uncertain economy. he has simply refused to engage with provincial leaders, whether it's on trade barriers, climate change, trading or job creation -- that is quite frankly not the kind of leadership that a broad and diverse country like canada needs from a prime minister. mr. harper: the premiers in the federal government are working together on breaking down trade barriers. we have the new west partnership and we made significant progress, but more importantly, we have increased the number of countries with which we concluded trade deals from five to 44. the entire european union, with a foothold in asia. no government has opened up trade opportunities for canadian companies and canadian workers like this. ms. may: but the kor

mr. mulcair: the problem mr.r has on that one is he refuses to sit down and talk with the premiers. it's just not showing leadership. we have a federation that needs people to sit down and talk about barriers, talk about climate change, talk about how we will get canadians ahead and uncertain economy. he has simply refused to engage with provincial weather is on interprovincial trade barriers whether it's on training and job creation and that's what frankly not the kind of leadership at the broad and diverse country like canada actually needs for our prime minister. >> mr. trudeau on trade. the federal government is working together on breaking down. mag barriers. we have the u.s. partnership and we made significant progress but more importantly under our government we have increased the number of countries with which we have included trade deals from five to 44 with the entire european union much of the hemisphere and now the nation. no government has opened up trade opportunities for trading companies and canad

mr. mulcair: mr. harper thought that by gutting our environmental laws somehow he could get our energy resources to market better. how is that working out, mr. harper? one of those projects have gotten off the drawing board. it's not hard to understand why. canadians across the country want to clear, thorough, credible environmental assessment process. canada can be a leader around the world. we can play a positive role. that with mr. harper, we have the worst of all worlds. air and water, more carbon pollution. ms. may: and it is -- the only way -- with all due respect, the only way you can take credit for the emissions drop, which only occurred in 2008 and 2009, as the global financial crisis. that's the only thing that --ught down in addition to emissions. they would have gone up much more than they had if not for the actions of ontario and british columbia. the cold, cruel reality is that under your watch, greenhouse gases have been rising, carbon pollution has been rising, as soon as our economy

mr. wells: the first response goes to tom mulcair. mr. mulcair: he has said he would never name and appointed senator. he has broken a record and named 59 and the list continues to grow. i am looking for a mandate on october 19 to put an end to this once and for all. there are things we can do. the first is to make sure every vote counts. open up parliament, for example. get rid of the secrecy of the internal committee that looks at how taxpayer money is spent. we think taxpayers should have the ability to look at how every single dollar is spent. by the way, we do want to get rid of the senate abolition. mr. trudeau thinks we need better senators. i think we only need former senators. mr. trudeau: his plan is to say, stop me before i appoint again. the fact is he made a solemn promise to never appoint a senator, he broke that promise on his very first day as prime minister by appointing a senator. he broke that promise to the eight more times -- 58 more times. mr. mulcair wants to open of the constitution. when the next prime minister eve

mr. mulcair is right.le one of these raw pitchmen unprocessed oil pipeline schemes is that exporting canadian jobs. that's what the green party opposes every single one. i would like to mr. mulcair's answer, will you join us and fight against the risky pipeline and tanker expansion tripling the transport of unprocessed oil from vancouver? will you help us defend our plans? mulcair: i share the same concerns big effect is another another example of what mr. harper has done to our rule. did you know the groups that are involved in those processes are not even allowed to cross-examine the company's witnesses? that's a breach of the rules of natural deficits and that -- track to be opposed the pipeline? mulcair: opposing these pipelines the systematic and defense is just as wrong as supporting them in advance because in both cases what you need is an objective -- [talking over each other] mulcair: will be replacing to supertankers that come down the saint lawrence, replacing the extremely dangerous trains goin

mr. mulcair said. all of our nato allies support this and not only nato allies virltually all of the muslim countries in the region support this because this organization is a nerve center of a violent jihadist movement that is slaughtering hundreds and thousands of people but it a threat to the entire region and globe. it has singled out canadians by name and demonstrated the ability to carry out attacks in countries like our's. it would be foolish not to go after this group before they come after us. i am proud of the job the men and women are doing. i think it is widely supported by the canadians. >> a question one of my colleagues put to you. if not isis than who? >> the liberal party is clear. we support being part of the coalition against isis. we disagree that a bombing mission is the right way to go about it. when a prime minister choses to send men and women on the there has to be a clear plan, expectation of success, and reasonable justification of the specific action canada is taking. not ju

mr. mulcair: would like to thank maclean's and rogers for the debate. and all of you at home for joining us in the middle of the summer. in this election, there is a clear choice. four more years of stephen harper's conservatives or my plan for positive change. under mr. harper's plan, incomes are's degnan -- are stagnant. mr. harper has the worst job record since the second world war. he has run up eight deficits in a row and added $150 billion to canada's debt. harper's planmr. is not working. jail.ave incentives to the biggest risk is four more years of mr. harper's government. it is time for change, change built on hard work, accountability. my 35 years ofed public service and the values that will continue to guide me. my number one priority is kickstart the economy and get canadians working. we will invest in local infrastructure and help small businesses to create jobs. we understand good jobs and a clean environment go hand-in-hand. i have fought for canada my whole life. is the greatest country the world. but a lot has been lost under the conser

mulcair, justin trudeau, elizabeth may. for octoberis set 19, making this the longest campaign in modern canadian history. mr.: the longest election campaign in modern canadian history has begun. good evening, i'm paul wells, the political editor of maclean's magazine. i'm excited about this as you are. we have the leaders of four national political parties together in one room. we don't know whether that will happen again before you vote. i don't think they know. while they are here, let's make them work. in tleaders are just injure rudeau, elizabeth