mr. mullin for five minutes. >> thank you, sir. thank you for having this meeting. i'll be honest, there's a few meetings we have in here that i had to study hard on because i'm not familiar with it. this is as i would say in my wheelhouse. i understand this situation extremely well. ms. noll, i'm going to talk to you for probably the remainder of the time. because a couple of things you said, and i just want to set the record straight. one, you said huge savings that these energy savings standards the d.o.e. has put out has put huge savings. that was your words, right? based on what? >> based on analysis.

mr. mullin for five minutes. >> thank you, sir. thank you for having this meeting. i'll be honest, there's a few meetings we have in here that i had to study hard on because i'm not familiar with it. this is as i would say in my wheelhouse. i understand this situation extremely well. miss knoll i'm going to talk to you for probably the remainder of the time. because a couple of things you said, and i just want to set the record straight. one, you said huge savings that these energy savings standards the d.o.e. has put out has put huge savings. that was your words, right? based on what? >> based on analysis. >> what analysis? >> analysis that aceee and the appliance awareness project that's done as well as energy zone analysis. >> are you really looking at bills and prices? because you said huge savings and then you said up to $500 a year on energy cost. is that correct? >> correct. >> in oklahoma the average household today their total energy bill a year is $1,296. so you're saying that because of your savings, you know, that bill would have been $1,796? is that rig

mr. mullin for five minutes. >> thank you for having this meeting. there's a few meetings that we have in here that i have to study hard on. this is, as i would say, in my wheelhouse. i understand this situation extremely well. ms. noll, i'm going to talk to you for probably the remainder of the time. a couple things that you said, and i want to set the record straight. one, you said huge savings that these energy efficiency standards that d.o.e. has put out has put huge savings. based on what? >> based on analysis. >> what analysis? >> analysis that aceee and appliance standards has done and the department of energy has done analysis. >> are you really looking at bills and prices? because you said huge savings and you said up to $500 a year on energy cost is that correct? >> correct. >> in oklahoma, the average household total, their total energy bill a year is $1,296. you're saying that because your savings, that bill would have been $1,796 is that right? >> absent the standards. >> if i go back and i look at 2008, the midline -- just midline whirl