mr. mulvaney: humane or inhumane? eric: inhumane. mr. : whether or not it is humane -- inhumane, it is what we do to american citizens. we as american citizens don't separate children from families. mr. mulvaney: we do. that's my point. do you have kids? eric: 18 and 16. mr. mulvaney: i have 18 euros, they don't care if they are with me. you're 16-year-old is still at home. if you get arrested tonight for shooting me, we are going to detain you. we will put you in jail. we will separate you from your child. that is the law. that is what we do appear your kids don't get to go with you to prison. that is what we are doing on the border. you can say what you want about the policy, zero-tolerance, which is different from the previous administration, but not on the execution of the law. i refuse to accept the premise that somehow it is inhumane which is the same thing we do to our own citizens and for good reasons. we don't want folks in prison. eric: there are distinctions to be drawn. if i end up shooting you, it will not happen, and i end u

mr. mulvaney: and linda's job, [laughter] dealing with small businesses. long time ago i worked in a freezer for a guy that made frozen pizzas. one day he's making cheese pizzas and the afternoon he will make pepperoni. he has an entirely different agency to deal with. it simply doesn't make sense. we will try to fix it. i want to go through a couple of examples today. step aside to go over just one or two -- a couple of them made the press. we talk about this later about the department of education and the department of labor being merged. we think that makes tremendous sense. what are they both doing? they're doing the same thing, get people ready for the work force. sometimes it's education, vocational training. we're doing the same thing. this goes back to the work i think ivanka i think did very early on job training when we learned we had -- in fact, we don't even know how many job training programs we have. some people think it's 40. some people think it's 46, 47. we get it down to 16 and put it all in one place so that if you're not happy or the ne

mr. mulvaney: and linda's job, dealing with small businesses. long time ago i worked in a freezer for a guy that made frozen pizzas. one day he's making cheese pizzas and the afternoon he will make pepperoni. he has an entirely different agency to deal with. it simply doesn't make sense. we will try to fix it. i want to go through a couple of examples today. step aside to go over just one or two -- a couple of them made the press. we talk about this later about the department of education and the department of labor being merged. we think that makes tremendous sense. what are they both doing? they're doing the same thing, get people ready for the work force. sometimes it's education, vocational training. we're doing the same thing. this goes back to the work i think ivanka i think did very early on job training when we learned we had -- in fact, we don't even know how many job training programs we have. some people think it's 40. some people think it's 46, 47. we get it down to 16 and put it all in one place so that if you're not happy or the ne

mr. mulvaney, and h.h.s. secretary on june 14 and asked about the costs that the president's policy decision has incurred. we have not heard an answer rom them or from the administration on any of these questions. not on cost, not on reunification, not on standards, not on oversight. it is unacceptable. the president's self-manufactured crisis is child abuse plain and simple. and as members of this congress , we have a moral responsibility, a moral obligation to stand up and to say stop this child abuse. mr. president, fix this crisis now. your executive order didn't do it. and the humanity, this is about our humanity, it is about the soul of this sontry. what we're about and where our val -- of this country. what we're about and where our values are, whatever our views are on immigration, on -- to watch what's happening at our border with disrupting families, ripping children from their parents is a disgrace and it's one that we have to address as members of congress, and it's one that this president and thi

mr. mulvaney dined with the evening, andnesday the president discussed the chief of staff position with himcharles from louisiana, republican. caller: good morning. i have several things. wrayld like to start with and rosenstein. i felt like the republicans -- and i am republican -- i felt like some of them were very unchained, those two. i think they are striving to do their jobs and i think if you just let them finish it, trump and all of them will probably be vindicated. should not have anything to fear if they are not guilty. and then on the border, the democrats want to confuse illegal immigration in our country. i tell you, what they need to do is leave their own doors unlocked tonight and let anybody andhat is legal or illegal see how they feel about it. if they don't want to do that, they need to fix our borders. host: ok. caller: i wanted one more thing. host: all right, go ahead. caller: that man that called in and compared a little baby to tonsils or something like that, i would like to answer him that the fact is, they are a separate body. they have their own dna and that starts

mulvaney thinks. what's right about that, mr. president? apparently director be mulvaney who h two j head of office and budget and budget and management and head of the consumer business, puttingt mildly, two absolutely full-time jobs, he has time with payday lenders at gulf resorts but can't make the time to meet with consumer experts haoepb though it's the -- even though it's the law to make it twice a year so he says he's not going to do it. the board is supposed to advise the directors of the consumer bureau on friends they're seeing so the bureau can stay ahead of scams and frauds. it's one more tool, or should be one more t to try to prevent corporations from scamming consumers before it happens. let's for a change stop the corruption and stop the back scratching and stop the favors for wall street before they ratr baitaxpayers bailing o the ty scamhe public, and the public who is left penniless in far too many cases. it's also an opportunity for the director to hear what kinds of consroblems americans here's fundamentally, mr. preside

mr. hayes: i don't think mick mulvaney is here today. mr. anton: he was here. mr. hayes: he left, though. mr. anton: i sign over there. mr. hayes: we may have bored him. let me ask you a question i will ask him. one of the biggest challenges facing the country's debt, deficit. the president pushes entitlement reform, he campaigned against entitlement reform. it is a genetic change. mr. anton: we will not reduce our national debt without reforming entitlements. we'll have to find a way to reform entitlement in a way that does not convince the working class blue-collar low and middle income americans that these are the green eyeshade republicans coming after you to increase income inequality. you can call that a failure of message, pass policy, maybe both. but it was definitely a message of -- a failure of message. mr. hayes: how do you make that case? you you are a messaging guy. you were at the top levels of messaging for the white house. mr. anton: on a narrow band of topics. willpics. you will and sell and what others who have studied this carefully are trying to

mulvaney seems to be the kind of mr. fix it guy in trump's mind.s brought in when there was a va ccancy. it's not surprising that his name would pop up here and nick is somebody who was brought on to pence's staff. >> let's talk about that meeting yesterday getting contentious with rod rosenstein and christopher wray. they want to see the evidence that's been gathered on the russia probe within the next seven days. what are they worried about here? >> their mission from the beginning has been to disrupt, to undermine this investigation and so it's similar to president trump when you see president trump tweet things that are just really trying to muddy the waters. there is a more specific mission in this case. they want to look for information like we got about the two doj officials who were texting back and forth. they want to dig up more details to indicate that president trump is not getting a fair shake. so that's the information they want. >> good seeing you. have a great weekend. >> preparations for trump's military parade getting underway. wh

mr. trump appears to be searching for replacement for john kelly. the president recently touched on the subject with budget director mick mulvaney earlier this week. patched through an apparent prank call to air force one earlier this week. that caller pretended to be democratic senator bob menendez who was recently cleared of federal corruption charges. >> great job. you went through a tough, tough situation and i don't think a very fair situation but congratulations. >> obviously, my constituents have given me a lot of grief about this immigration thing. >> i'd like to do the larger solution, and i think we can do a real immigration bill. >> that was cnn's jim acosta reporting from washington. >>> the united nations is warning of a catastrophe in the southern syria as tens of thousands of civilians escape a government offensive. in the southwest town of dara, almost 220,000 people have fled the fighting. that's according to the union of medical care and relief organization. meanwhile, along syria's border with the israeli-controlled golan heights, thousands are taking refuge in a tent city. we're joined from israel's side. and the u.n. is saying

mr. kelly no longer likes the job and doesn't believe the president wants a chief of staff. the top two choices to replace him are nick ayers or mick mulvaneyher they'll have better luck restraining trumps mercurial instincts that a retired four-star general isn't an open question. in april, nbc news reported kelly was likely to leave by july 31 noting that kelly reportedly called him an idiot. the other guy called him a moron. we have phil rucker from the "washington post" and a national political reporter for bloomberg. every time i see the general i look at a grown up and every time i see the president i see something different. how does he tell the president what to do? >> it looks like he can't. >> well, he probably can't. he's having trouble with that but if he leaves, the situation at the white house, a lot of things will remain the same, right? he's had two chief of staffs, they had very different backgroun backgrounds. >> remind me, reince priebus -- >> reince priebus and then john kelly. they have different backgrounds, priebus came from the rnc, political guy and things have stayed the same. some things did change when kelly went

mr. speaker, i'd like to point out that there was a concern about a potential ebola outbreak. we were able to go back and work with our o.m.b. director, mick mulvaney, who worked really closely with us to make sure that this bill was put together properly to address what the president wanted while also making sure that we were able to respond to any potential ebola crisis, and i especially want to thank my colleagues, jeff fortenberry and don bacon from nebraska that we will be able to, with this bill's passage, respond to any possible ebola outbreak. hopefully we won't have one but we will be prepared thanks to congressman fortenberry and bacon. overall, mr. speaker, this is an important bill to help us reduce the deficit, keep our fiscal house in order while properly funding those programs like chip who are important for so many who voted for it. i'm glad those that voted against it realizes that it's an important program. maybe they'll support it next time. i encourage my colleagues to vote for this bill and i encourage the senate to take this up quickly because it only requires 51 votes to pass, not 60. i urge full passage, get this on the pres

mr. speaker, i'd like to point out that there was a concern about a potential ebola outbreak. we were able to go back and work with our o.m.b. director, mick mulvaney, who worked really closely with us to make sure that this bill was put together properly to address what the president wanted while also making sure that we were able to respond to any potential ebola crisis, and i especially want to thank my colleagues, jeff fortenberry and don bacon from nebraska that we will be able to, with this bill's passage, respond to any possible ebola outbreak. hopefully we won't have one but we will be prepared thanks to congressman fortenberry and bacon. overall, mr. speaker, this is an important bill to help us reduce the deficit, keep our fiscal house in order while properly funding those programs like chip who are important for so many who voted for it. i'm glad those that voted against it realizes that it's an important program. maybe they'll support it next time. i encourage my colleagues to vote for this bill and i encourage the senate to take this up quickly because it only requires 51 votes to pass, not 60. i urge full passage, get this on the pres

mr. speaker, i'd like to point out that there was a concern about a potential ebola outbreak. we were able to go back and work with our o.m.b. director, mick mulvaney, who worked really closely with us to make sure that this bill was put together properly to address what the president wanted while also making sure that we were able to respond to any potential ebola crisis, and i especially want to thank my colleagues, jeff fortenberry and don bacon from nebraska that we will be able to, with this bill's passage, respond to any possible ebola outbreak. hopefully we won't have one but we will be prepared thanks to congressman fortenberry and bacon. overall, mr. speaker, this is an important bill to help us reduce the deficit, keep our fiscal house in order while properly funding those programs like chip who are important for so many who voted for it. i'm glad those that voted against it realizes that it's an important program. maybe they'll support it next time. i encourage my colleagues to vote for this bill and i encourage the senate to take this up quickly because it only requires 51 votes to pass, not 60. i urge full passage, get this on the pres