mr. murdoch. mr. murdoch. yeah, and this leads to one other story. so she finally came to chicago that is begala and tony bennett's son and but the question was, was going to dance with her and. and as i bravely raised my hand and said, i volunteer to be the first. and so they went to the palace and they said well, there are some conditions and that's word. what were the conditions and the conditions? you had to be married. you had to be a happily married. yes. you you to be a good dancer. and i said, but, yeah, i'm a great dancer and you have to be six feet tall. oh, that's nice to to say did not get to dance with diana. you know so diana and and elizabeth taylor seem like reasonably normal people but you have a lot of interesting stuff in there about what celebrity does to celebrity, the narcissism, the yeah, we can be talk to us a little about that. yeah. well, this yeah there's the celebrities are at risk when they become a celebrity and the first one is something that are the medical term has acquired saturation of narcissism as well as in and a

mr. murdoch had a conversation with a certain glenn youngkin. >> glenn youngkin is a perfectly reasonableolitician who won against a person who had been governor already. he's also made parental rights one of his big messages. you can see it is starting to backfire a little bit ron desantis. so what has youngkin done for the economy? i just don't see on a charisma level that he can go anywhere close to trump. tom: the other side, what should be the do list for the president and the people surrounding the president? what i see is silence. what should they be doing? >> president biden emphasizing that the election is 14 months away, that is a long time. that is pretty -- george bush was pretty popular in 1991 and lost in 1992 for all sorts of reasons. he has got to engage trump. he has got to remind people what life is like under trump and the chaos that ensued. he has got to appeal to those voters today, now. just hammer home and engage not ignore. i don't think you win when somebody else is out there getting a lot of press. you've got to go out there. lisa: do you think the kamala harris

. >> reporter: rachel murdoch, a college professor and self-described moderate, says she's disappointed with president biden but does not believe mr. trump is right for 2024 >> president trump caused chaos and was self-serving in his office >> reporter: more than half of likely gop caucusgoers said their minds aren't made up, including murdoch. >> if someone has a good point, i'm willing to hear other perspectives but not if you're yelling at me. >> reporter: and while the new poll showed 41% think the republican party should continue to be led by former president trump, whitey stang is not one of them. >> do you think former president trump should be the leader of the republican party >> no. not at all >> why >> i don't think he's trustworthy. >> reporter: stang, a father and grandfather, voted for mr. trump in 2016 and 2020 but says january 6th was a turning point for him. >> there's no doubt in my mind that he helped incite those people, that he did little to stop them. >> reporter: that's something mr. trump denies and while stang says his top pick right now is former u.n. ambassador nikki haley, he could still change his mind