mr. murdock's, google's, amazon's, as high as possible. i think mr. murdock went into this, based on my sources, that he knew they would reject the initial one so he'd have to come back again. >> that's pretty common. >> this guy plays the game, mr. murdock knows what's going on, 15 steps ahead. >> culturally speaking do you think there's an aversion to rupert murdock in the elite halls of the time warner board room? >> maybe. there's no aversion to money, though. that's the only thing that matters. ly tell you this, i can't tell you who is going to ultimately win. i talked to my sources out there. they tell you one thing you don't bet against, you don't bet against mr. murdock. he's one of the best in the business. i can't guarantee he's going to win this. >> he could lose. he tried to get the "wall street journal" and they said no, no, no and finally said yes. >> this is a different ball game. this is a company that's done well. its stock has done well. it could do even better and could get another bid. i think based on my sources, i'm a little scare