mr. nadercare doesn't go far enough. we will get to that. but as soon who fought for consumer protection for so long, tell me where obama care fails consumers most. >> well, first of all, it is full of trap doors. so fully implemented there will be 25 million people not covered. secondly, it doesn't control cost of hospitals, drug companies, dr. practices because it is the same fee for service process. and third, it is eformously complex to administer which of course irritates people, raises costs. develops too much uncertainty and ambiguity. having said that, if it is fully impri imimplemented, there will be full medicare for all, everybody in, everybody out. in canada they do it for half the price and businesses like it that way. >> do you think that was the plan all along? >> no. >> it wasn't. >> right from the beginning, obama dumped that option. from the beginning he was conceding to big drug companies and health insurance companies. >> let's talk about holding insurance companies feet car