mr. nagbower seek recognition? >> i've been listening to the discussion here today and i don't think there's anybody unsympathetic to people in hard times. i think what i am confused about is where people would object to reforming something that is not working correctly. over the years, i've been in the real estate business and had rental property and one time i had a tenant call me up and said, randy, i'm going to have to move out of this house. i said why is that? he said well, the gas bill is too high. i said how much is it? and it was too high. it turns out that what was wrong was there was an underground gas leak out in the yard, and so we went out -- these people were still getting gas to their house, but there was waste there because gas was seeping out of the line. we fixed the gas line and the gas bill went down substantially. so all we're talking about here is let's make sure that the gas is getting to the people that need it, but let's don't let the gas be leaking out where people are not qualified, wher