mr. nagel, and why don't we go to the next applicant, the incumbent for seat 6, del seymour. >> okay. i can't turn my camera on. can you hear me? >> chair peskin: yes, we can hear you but we can't see you. >> okay. i can't turn my camera on, but i'll go ahead and get started. >> chair peskin: we know what you look like, mr. seymour. >> okay. thank you. my name is del seymour, and i've been in the san francisco area approximately 30 years, and 18 of those years were homeless. i'm been out of the homeless community 12 years, but i was given opportunities to get out. a lot of help from my veterans organization, swords to plowshares. i'm a disabled viet nam veteran, and i'm proud to have served our country. so what i do now is i spend a lot of time with the local homeless coordinating board, and i'm the cochair. i probably am working for the board 20 hours a week. i'm calling mary ellen from the department of emergency management or shireen from h.s.h., or emily, who just got off the floor, i was o