mr. nathan fight, so first of all, it's better to thank all the efforts that can stop and see the the massacker, that is very important, but for the next step, we one more, believe me, the world one more, the the word and the world divided in two parts, one, they are protecting and safe guarding the definition. and the original narration and narrative of humans and the seconds that supporting the war are others. thank you very much, it's for your first question. okay, mr. bar, i'm going to stay with you now, sorry, okay, i'm being told, wait, wait, hang on, mr. bar, i'm just being told by the control room that we have our coursemandel's joining us now from baitunya where the actual prisoner uh swap is is commencing where the palestinian prisoners have been released uh moona, if you're with us, what, what's going on behind you, what do you know? yes, exactly, we are now in the city of the betonia, where the israeli prison of released 39 palestinian prisoners, actually less than 39 prisoners were released from the israeli jail of to the military checkpoint of vitonia and we're here in the municip

mr. nathan, yahoo! more than more likely than not is not going to be the prime minister of the state of israel next year at this time if we were having this conversation. so i think that if in fact there's a course correction to a more centrist is really governmental. i didn't use rules views and what could happen could expand shumate and this is the assumption that there is a forward a young guy so that will be able to pre empt and prevent what happened on october 6 . 07. from ever happening again, miss middle, what makes you have so confident that next year we won't be talking about a prime minister benjamin netanyahu anymore. well, we ever joined, going to is really government since independence is one point. 8 years in december . the nothing you know, government were purchased one year mark. this is a government that presided over the largest chairs to check in the history of the state of israel. a government to try to undermine unsuccessfully. i'm right in israel's political system and create a new

mr. nathan, yahoo, who are responsible for violations of international criminal law. so that's because one of the 5 countries that have an international criminal ports investigation into these really how much with which is left thousands of children and civilians did. so that's because says that the request was made to sort that the i c, c pay special and patient attention to the grave situation in pad this time. since the start of the will, international leaders have been requesting respect towards international laws and rules. also the rules and now so that's it is also going include aging as the states parties to the roman statute, to join this particular reserve. oh, creates and submit to their own independent, the english that have been angry scenes in the city assessable. nikki, as process is classed with police, the came on the bus 3 of a 1973 for democracies through the rules of assets for the technical diversity. the last 24 people say they have collaboration labs, southern feeds funding as people of marks with flags that flags adams to the flowers in memory

mr. nathan yahoo, who are responsible for violations of international criminal law. so that's because one of the 5 countries that have an international criminal quotes investigation into these really how much more, which is lift thousands of children and civilians did. so that's because says that the request was made to sort that the i c. c, pay special and patient attention to the grave situation in pad this time. since the start of the whole international leaders have been requesting respect towards international laws and rules also the will. and now, so that's because is the us getting in for june as the states parties to the roman statute to join this particular service? oh, creates and submit to the own independence. we have ideas and his will have exchange follow closely. lebanese border, this last name, israel says it last as line from a number of the minutes and speeds, facilities was booked as, as it's shutting down and is ready drone a lot more from an onto our big correspondence in the a non. so i have found the item continues between these rarely army and

mr. nathan, yahoo, who are responsible for violations of international criminal law. so that's because one of the 5 countries that have an international criminal quotes investigation into these really how much more, which is lift thousands of children and civilians did. so that's because says that the request was made to sort that the i c. c pay special and patients attention to the grave situation in pad this time. since the start of the whole international leaders have been requesting respect towards international laws and rules. also the will and now, so that is also getting info aging as the states parties to the roman statute to join this particular service. oh, creates and submitted their own independence by shifting gears to greece with thousands of hit the streets to protest. israel's attacks on gaza united procession with the crowd caring. how does union flags look? a lot of people comes on the anniversary of 1973 pro democracy students of all the thousands full of technical university 24 people lost their lives during about people leaving flowers and memory

mr. and nathan have who is in control of exactly what is going on because the he has a plan, but he will have to shift gears. you look at what is happening is right. it's so happy in that menda said, protest demonstrations you for that are asking for the return of the hostages, which from us has had less. they are also demanding the recognition of them. yeah. so he will have to change gears. there was a payment of the shifting united states which was supposed to be calling the shots is not doing so anymore because it's the case of the uh, not the dog good vacuum, the daily, but the daily events and the dog so. so that's just like these things are coming up . it's very interesting comment. you show me this. so i wanted to ask you though, i mean, okay, you do, you talk about the relationship between washington and jerusalem, but you want to talk about this potential disconnect coming up. just going to ask you how big is washington's role in the conflict given the opposing messages? we're getting you what you went on to something a moment ago? yeah, absolutely. i was actually listening to n

stuart: former ambassador at large nathan sails joins me now. mr.lounge do you see this -- how long do you see this war lasting, israel and gaza? >> stu, it's hard to say. israel identified very ambitious goals for the war, completely eradicating hamas so they're no longer capable of governing in gaza and doesn't present a military threat to the jewish state. it won't take a couple of weeks and may not be a couple of months and could be a conflict that stretches for awhile. that's really important for the biden administration to provide israel the support it needs to win this war as quickly as possible. we cannot make the same mistake we made in ukraine of dribbling out assistance bit by bit giving them enough to fight to a stalemate but not to win. we need israel to win quickly and decisively so that we can move on rather than facing a stalemate. stuart: a lot of people -- i hear frequently in some idol conversation, people are worried that we're on the brink of world war iii if somebody were to suggest that to you, what would you say? >> stu, we'r

nathan, thank you so much, mr. ambassador, i should say, thank you for joining us today. great to have you on the set. >> thank you, anita, for being here. >> we've watched trey's report at the hospital and a lot of tension on that. although they're looking, they haven't found yet it's been used as a headquarters. they found ammunition, military supplies, hamas paraphernalia. we haven't seen any evidence of tunnels or used as a headquarters. what are we to make of that? >> we need to stay tuned. we know for a fact that hamas fighters are there, why are there so many rpg's and other weapons? the israeli intelligence services said that hamas is using this facility as a command center in the tunnels underneath and we've had confirmation from the u.s. intelligence community. president biden said we know with a level of certainty that hamas is using this facility illegally under the laws of war, it's a war crime to take a protected structure like a hospital and militarize it. the president has said and the military community said we know they're there. we need to be patient as

laura: now, nathan, the economists is out with a delusional piece today that was titled donald trump poses the big danger to the world in 2024. they are arguing that the greatest threat mrses to his own country and china and its friends would rejoice over the evidence that american democracy is dysfunctional. nathan, here you have trillions of dollars in corporate wealth gathered to prostrate themselves at the feet of a communist dictator and the communist is saying trump is the problem? trump is anti-democratic? >> i mean, laura, it's deranged. look around the world. the world is on fire. russia has invaded ukraine in a war of aggression, that seems to me to be a pretty big threat to the united states and the world order. china is hungrily eyeing taiwan across the strait. xi jinping is going to use military force if he can. he has told the people liberation army be ready by 2027. and this is what the economist is worried about? what about iran which just launched a huge war on israel using terror proxy hamas? and is launching, i think, over 60 rocket attacks through proxies on american forces across the middle east? where is that in the conversation? i think, you know,

mr. brought up when you hear those words. let's consider that and consider the people that i've spoken with this week. i spoke yesterday with the author and nathan thrall, he and the german american author, deborah feldman. they both put forth the observation that germany's commitment to israel's survival and security leaves no room for any criticism of israel's government and its policies. in fact, in germany often criticism, but these really state is tantamount to anti semitism. what are your thoughts about that? a look. i mean i, i grew up in israel, i, i grew up surrounded by holocaust survivors. i became a germany store and i so how would you have any shifted in the 1980s from generally denying any individual responsibility or even collective responsibility for the article is to create a thing of this memorial culture, which is very important. so from that perspective and also as it is really i can say, i agree with what the transfer says of israel rights inside duty to defend itself and its citizens. that is not the question. and i think it's a very nice the chance to assess the journey is a very powerful country and big player on the euro

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