mr. needler. mr. farr. >> at the outset i would like to say that the government's position in this case, that the community rating and guarantee issue provision ought to be struck down is an example of the best driving out the good. even without the minimum coverage provision those two provisions, guaranteed issue and community rating, will still open insurance markets to millions of people that were excluded under the prior system and for millions of people will lower prices which were raised high under the old system because of their poor health. even though the system is not going to work precisely as congress wanted it would serve central goals that congress had of expanding coverage of people who were unable to get coverage or unable to get it at affordable prices. >> the points that mr. needler made was that the price won't be affordable because he spoke of the adverse selection problem, so fewer people in them insurance companies are going to have to raise the premiums so it's nice that congres

mr. needler, mr. carvin and mr. long and mr. favre, the case is submitted. >> that wraps up the last of three days of supreme court oral arguments on the health care law. if you missed any of this, it's you available online at c spa cspan.org, we'll also show it again tonight at 8:00 p.m. on cspan2. on our facebook page, we're asking you what justice is having the most influence on the oral arguments, log on and vote and leave your thoughts. that's facebook.com/cspan. and you'll hear the congressional speeches and rallies on the health care law as well as documents and links at cspan.org/health care. >>> live sunday on in depth, your questions for author and national review senior richard brookheiser, include right time, right place, america's first dynasty. he'll taking your phone calls, e-mails and tweets on sunday's book tv. >>> here's a look at our schedule on cspan 3. next vice president joe biden visits davenport iowa to talk with supporters about manufacturing jobs and the middle class and then attorney general eric holde

mr. needler is saying, look at the text. look at the structure. but don't try to be economists figuring out how it will affect the insurance industry. >> ifill: let's talk about that, what the congress' intent. we don't even the court will strike down this part of the statute, but if they were to, what remains? is it a hollow shell as some of the justicees were saying. >> a close reading of those 2700 pages would find plenty in there that does not mean the standard of a hollow shell, gwen. for example, some provisions, very small, completely unrelated to insurance expansion, requirement that national chain restaurants, as of this year, have to post on their menus the calorie content of their food. why that would have to fall in conjunction with the minimum coverage requirement, it doesn't make sense. , provisions to make the health care system cost less and be more efficient. so lots of innovations around payment and delivery system reform that are already going on. in addition to that, many, many other provisions around prevention, to get america