mr. niemira. guest: well, there are lots of issues in that question. first, let me make a broad comment about the importance, actually, of the shopping center. in fact, one in 11 jobs is as a dependent at the shopping center environment. extremely important to the broader economy. keep in mind that there is a perception that the only thing that people are going out and buying at these shopping centers is probably big ticket items, apparel and so forth. the shopping center includes lots of different types of retailers, from your grocery store to the dry cleaner to even educational facilities now being housed in these facilities, shopping centers. the shopping center is evolving with the economy. more services that is a -- more services. that is a key thing to keep in mind. broader structural changes in the economy is a question that congress needs to address. right now the concern is getting through some of the transitional effects of the past recession. the caller's perception that we have longer

mr. niemira. guest: well, there are lots of issues in that question. first, let me make a broad comment about the importance, actually, of the shopping center. in fact, one in 11 jobs is as a dependent at the shopping center environment. extremely important to the broader economy. keep in mind that there is a perception that the only thing that people are going out and buying at these shopping centers is probably big ticket items, apparel and so forth. the shopping center includes lots of different types of retailers, from your grocery store to the dry cleaner to even educational facilities now being housed in these facilities, shopping centers. the shopping center is evolving with the economy. more services that is a -- more services. that is a key thing to keep in mind. broader structural changes in the economy is a question that congress needs to address. right now the concern is getting through some of the transitional effects of the past recession. the caller's perception that we have longer