i voted for reagan and one time he pulled me aside and said i think mr. nixon had a pretty good for policy the. [laughter] so who was richard nixon?. politically speaking a famous british correspondent he wanted an interview and said he should do it so i was in the room in the oval office to say the arab good british writers don't take notes. basking if they would enter politics at the time of the new deal and how he grew up big your belinda. and then only to use government so when he came to power in 1946 with the anti-communism and the cold war from that case and the battles against adlai stevenson but they clearly moved on from the anti-communist conservative to a much broader vision of the world. with the idea to create a generation of peace that you haven't had one of those in world history so with domestic policy to be progressive for pragmatic to the issues like epa to feel you could do good for the people one of the programs you will see they were not a libertarian also internationalist getting back to 1947 where he had jack kennedy with a bill supporte

, you're to blame ♪ ♪ mr. nixon, you're to blame ♪ mr. was simply a meltdown. >> try this stuff. it's unbelievable. and believe me, an i'm an expert on that subject. >> the california ice cream company said the response was so negative, the commercials were being taken off the air immediately. >>> did someone put up a lot of money to have the democratic headquarters infiltrated and, if so, who and why? >> justice will be pursued no matter who's involved. >> do you have information implicating president nixon? >> i have no comment. >> the president of the united states demanded the attorney general fire the special prosecutor. >> that is the definition of tyranny. people have got to know whether or not their president's a crook. well, i'm not a crook. >> i don't think there was ever any discussion that there wouldn't be a cover-up. >> congress must move ahead with impeachment proceedings. >> there can be no whitewash at the white house. ♪

he wanted an interview and he got to me and i told mr. nixon he should do it. i was in the room with the oval office when nixon knew and he said good british writers don't take notes they just sit there and listen. they memorized and they walked out and re-created. so nixon, -- if he had entered politics at the time of the new deal rather than the postwar era. and nixon wrote him a wrong memo which is in my book. the way he grew up and how it affected when he was and was not against government action. didn't believe that folks like him should really rely on the people, they should all use government that really needed it. so nixon came to power in the postwar 1946. anti-communism and the cold war, these were the issues initially that i think made him and defined him from 46 with the bottles and -- by 1968 he had clearly moved on. you think he moved on from an anti-communist small semiconservative to a much broader vision. of the world. in the do think he generally, it was a touch of woodrow wilson. this identity could create a generation of peace. i thought mys

mr. nixon writer, researcher, researcher, traveling campaign aide and along with his current book, which i know you have all purchased, you hurt after by his other book, the greatest comeback which chronicled this remarkable time that patch worked with president nixon from 1965 until 1968 when he worked one-on-one with richard nixon closely during this comeback period where richard nixon went from political dead to return to become president of the united states. really remarkable book. in the white house pat was not only a conservative conscious, but a premier political strategist for the president. no other single person, in my judgment, and the same shrewd, creative insight into the american political mind and able to capture the unique forces shaping american 60s and 70s as pat did. moreover, more importantly in terms of the white house he knew president next and better than anyone else because he had spent that time with him in those three years just one-on-one in such close contact at is

was and what a loser mr. nixonas at the bottom of his career. 1972 richgd nick son was become and won the greatest landslide in american political history. now how did he do that in terms of political strategy? basically when i went to work for nixon in 1965, i argued that i know about nelson rockefeller in 1960 where nixon tried to bring together nixon and republicans strong enough together to beat john f. kennedy rock feller behaveddedly and didn't take or get him as vp, i told him by '65 because i was gold water. center of gravity of this party has shifted. so we just seen a bunch of outsider conservatives stereotownship and types in california have taken over the republican party nationally. and at the same time, you are mr. republican. you have the center of the republican party locked up. if you can marry these conservatives to the center of the party, but forgetting rockefeller wing they're not going to beat anybody anymore. that you've got to get these two together. you've got the nomination. this basically

mr. nixon's alone, not his party's. >> i think nixon was resolute. now i am liberated.g to have to run again. now i am going to be whom i wish to be. >> the united states has resumed full-scale bombing of north vietnam, including the hanoi haiphong area. the north vietnamese said american planes carried out heavy attacks around those cities tonight and that hanoi's armed forces shot down a large number of planes and captured several pilots. >> nixon wanted the communists to think he wacrazy in the hopes that that would drive them back to the bargaining table. >> a lot of the civilian areas were hit apparently. >> civilian areas must have been hit, and i don't want to say that it was not a very painful thing to have to do. >> when 8,500-pound bombs go off one plane, that's the closest thing to a nuclear weapon. >> the response to the christmas bombing was such an outrage. here is this small, third world country that the united states is bombing back to the stone age. >> the word from the president is military pressure will continue until a peace settlement is reached. >>

. >> mr. nixon has told aides that the loss of american popular support or the appearance of it, could induce the new leadership in hanoi to press on in the expectation that the united states would quit. >> the october moratorium made richard nixon go to the mountain top literally, to answer the anti-war mooumplgts. the elites had gotten on the anti-war bandwagon. they were all anti-war. and nixon wanted to rise up and show that there was another side. his side. the outesiders who wanted to support our soldiers. >> to you, the great silent majority. my fellow americans, i ask for your support. north vietnam cannot defeat or humiliate the united states. only americans can do that. >> the term silent majority clicked with middle america. they were never represented on television and they didn't feel they were represented in washington and didn't really have a voice. >> president nixon's finally displayed 52,000 telegrams of persons who supported him. >> it's time to stand up and be counted. >> at that

we took it very seriously. >> with that vote, mr. nixonident in more than a century and only the second in all of our history to confront removal from office through the only means provided in the constitution, impeachment. >> i stood by nixon and felt he should remain in office, but then we discovered the tape of june 23rd. this was fatal. >> good evening. president nixon stunned the country today by admitting he held back evidence from the house judiciary committee, keeping it a secret from his lawyers and not disclosing it in public statements. mr. nixon issued transcripts of three recorded conversations he had with h.r. halderman on june 23rd, 1972, six days after the burglars were caught in the watergate. >> you open that scab and there's a hell of a lot of things that we just feel that this would be detrimental to have this thing go any further. >> the facts came out. yes, the president himself, not only was he involved in this but he directed this criminal operation. >> they should call the fbi and n. and say that we wish for -- don

. >> i think mr. nixon is an effective leader of his party. i hope he would grant me the same.ion before us is which point of view and which party do we want to lead the united states. >> mr. nixon, would you like to comment on that statement? >> i have no comment. >> if you are live on television and there is a camera right here, there is really no place to hide. once you see a guy sweating when asked a question, are you sure he is the leader for you? >> that's the question before the american people, and only you can decide what you want. what you want this country to be, what you want to do with the future. i think we're ready to move. >> if you saw it on television, clearly kennedy had won that debate. >> gentleman, thank you very much for permitting us to present the next president of the united states on this unique program. >> it was the beginning of a new form of political craftsmanship. you could structure the message appropriately for the tv camera you could have a huge impact. and if you couldn't, you were toast. >> i'd like you to give a real tonight welcome to sena

and she said -- a personal friend of pat nixon and pat went to mrs. nixonshe would tell us that and she smoked, and i was a chain smoker then and so when i ran out of cigarettes, i would go, "mrs. nixon, have you got a couple of marlboro's until i can go get a --" but she was a wonderful lady. i think she was a very strong lady. she had a good sense of humor and she was a realist and you know, i just liked her very much and i remember after i testified, the watergate testimony came off so well and the president said, "come on over to the mansion." you know, right after i testified, about five or six o'clock or so, i was having a party in my office and so i went over there and she comes running up and she waltzes me all around the room after i testified. but she was a reserved, but she was a great lady. julie has a written wonderful book about her, just a wonderful book about her. brian: what did you think of the media coverage of her and over your lifetime, when did you recognize that the media is being against somebody in politics? what's the giveaway? pat

horses she do a personal friend of pat nixon [laughter] mrs. nixon would tell us that and i was a chain smoker then. nixon, she was strong lady. she had a good sense of humor. .he was a realist watergate testimony came off so well. the president said come over to .he mansion about 6:00 or so i was having a party in my office. she comes running off and she waltzes me around the room after i testified. she was reserved, but a great lady. brian: what did you think of the media coverage of her? over your lifetime, when do you recognize the media is against someone in politics? mr. buchanan: how she treated? i think it was simplistic and she just stands there behind him and does not move and maintains the same facial expression. that was not her at all. -- ido you discover that first went to work with nixon, early 66 -- early 1966. he would say the press is the enemy. . worked at the globe democrat a lot of the reporters and others, liberals and moderates and conservatives and things. i did not believe they were the enemy. .ixon had gotten horrible press

i said mrs. nixon you have a couple of marlboros? she was a very strong lady. she had a good sense of humor and she was -- she was -- she was a realist. i just liked her very much. i remember after i testified, the watergate testimony worked so well, the president said come over to the mansion. about 6:00, i was having a party in my office. i went over there and she comes running up. and she walzes me all around in the room after i testified. but she was a reserved, but she was a great lady. julie has written just a wonderful book about her. brian: what did you think of the media coverage of her and over your life time, when do you recognize that the media is being against someone in politics? what's the giveaway? mr. buchanan: how was she treated? brian: yes. mr. beau can than: she's sort of plastic pat. she stand there behind him. doesn't move. maintains the same posture or facial expression. and that wasn't her at all. when do you discover that the media -- when i first went to work for nixon, there was an early 1966 and sapphire says regularly he would say

he said the nixon white house was corrupt through and through. mr. hamilton: it was corrupt, and we know that launched in the nixon white house where the plumbers who attempted all caps of break-ins, but there were -- attempted all types of break-ins, including daniel ellsberg's psychiatrist office. but there were other plans for the brookings institute and things like that. of course, they tried unsuccessfully to break into watergate. that was the break-in that actually got them caught, but i think it revealed that many people in the white house -- they were all in on the cover-up, and that is quite amazing as we look back. ms. stahl: you were telling me about patrick gray at the fbi because the white house tried to get the fbi to come into the cover-up. mr. weicker: the nixon people tried to take him over to do their dirty work, and this was an especially poignant scenario. he was a man who was a submarine commander in the u.s. navy, and he had gone on one dangerous mission after another and excelled as a hero. he comes back to his country, serves i

mr. hamilton: nixon had some good lawyers, and i'm sure they mentioned the words obstruction of justice, so i'm sure there were legal reasons he didn't. mr. weicker: i take a little bit different view. we had already written the report. at least i had. i think many of the other members had before the release of the tapes. about 90% of what i wrote and what the committee wrote was fact. in other words, the state did not really add that much. the tapes would disclose in the middle of the senate watergate hearings in 1973. we didn't get it, but we discovered them. we never got them. what did happen before we wrote the reports -- >> we did have a transcript prepared by somebody in the white house. >> they did release some of the tapes. we went about the tapes in june of 1973, with butterfield. ms. stahl: talking about how watergate relates to today. one minute. last question before we make a switch. i want to know if each of you while the hearings were going on actually felt the enormity of what you were doing, the historical significance of it. were you thinking that you were going to bring

mr. nixon's landslide tonight. >> according to our cbs news estimate, president nixon has been re-electedrepublican headquarters at the shoreham hotel in washington. >> i've never known a national election when i would be able to go to bed earlier than tonight. [ cheers and applause ] >> and please repeat after me. i, richard nixon, do solemnly swear. >> i, richard nixon, do solemnly swear. >> that i will faithfully execute the office of president of the united states. >> looking back at the early watergate reports, it's hard to believe that nixon was completely unscathed. >> to the best of my ability. >> and will to the best of my ability. >> imagine a president getting away with that unfolding scandal in today's political environment. >> preserve and protect the constitution of the united states. >> so help me god. >> so help me god. >> woodward and bernstein went back to their desks, put their heads down, and continued to grind away at the story. >> i knew that i was going to be judged, the paper was going to be judged on this story. and therefore, you know, i think you could get away

trump and mr. nixon. they're very similar behind closed doors, personalities. nixon was much more reserved in public than we have with trump but similar author tar yan type personalities. >> declassified returns on saturday night. it has a timely story of russian spies living as americans inside the united states. these russian spies are playing a long game. >> absolutely. so think about this. they come here. they assume american identities for a very long period of time, hoping that they get a little piece of intelligence. they infiltrate a government agency. they recruit a government official to work with them. the interesting thing people are going to be fascinated about, this could be someone you knew, your neighbor, your colleague at work. these were truly the spies next door. it was the most complicated thing that the fbi did. you should watch at 9:00, declassified. >> i've canceled my plans. >> that's 9:00 here on cnn. thank, one and all. appreciate it, mike rogers, jeff dean, and gloria. >> stay away from my finances, from the family finances. would tru

he said well we have to appoint a jewish seat and nixon said i'm not going to appoint a jewish i'm going to appoint harry blackmun. you can't do that mr. president when you're going to appoint a and nixon said when i'm dead -- after i'm dead. the presence of unconscious of identity politics. they pointed thurgood marshall so the personalities and backgrounds of these justices are very much in play in terms of their decision-making. originalism, textualism work well for scully on most issues but then when you get to the gun caused a the right to keep and bear arms of course there's a preamble. the textualists are supposed to give effect to every word in the statute and there is a preamble, a well-regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. he absolutely swept aside the preamble and ignored it which is anti-textualists and anti-originalist and said there was a personal right to keep and bear arms. that apply to a handgun in your home in the district of columbia. on the weather would apply having a bazooka or a howitzer in your home. i guess the right to bear ar

lived through, and in particular what resinated with me was a quote by president nixon's counselor, chief attorney who said, mrpresident, there is a cancer growing on your presidency. that's the case here. no constructive purpose can be served by denying and changing stories. the truth of the matter is, jared kushner's story has changed more often than the republican health care bill and we know every time it changes, it gets worse. for donald trump jr. and jared kushner and the president, himself, i would suggest, it's far past time to come clean. it would be political equivalent of chemotherapy if they did. >> that's one way to put it. if it was someone in the white house that stopped donald trump jr. from coming forth and giving a full account, clearly that's not what happened at first. if someone at the white house stopped them, what would that mean? >> i think, frankly, kate, we are far past collusion. that's a charge from the intel committee to see if there was collusion with respect to the efforts in the 2016 presidential election. we are far past that, at this stage. >> where are we? >> we are at the p

nixon administration. >> 1973. i went back and watched mr. kelly, general kelly during some of his interviews.nd what i see, the exact notes, authentic, sober, no nonsense. he does not sound like a politician. >> joe, you could write for "the new york times" ." >> jon: he was a top aide ted two secretaries of defense, and you have to sort of know the political ways of washington, don't you? >> you do, but being the secretary of defense level is different from being in the white house. different sets of skills. and by the way, remember, military people are not supposed to be involved in policy into they are not supposed to be involved in politics. now he is going to find himself in the middle of both. >> and he does not like the political end of the job. he has said, he actually admitted that i don't like that particular part of the job. but you talk about a love affair. all i remember is john mccain used to have a love affair with the media as well. then he ran for president. everybody turn on him. and we saw last week, the address aggressive form of brain cancer, and then he votes for the hea

nixon and president trump. this was recorded at the watergate hotel in washington dc. it's just under an hour and a half. mr.everybody. i'm gordon freedman. [applause] mr. freedman: thank you. three or four months ago, we said maybe we should get some people together, and i thought that was a good idea. then i started trying to find people. it was a little difficult, and then some stuff started happening in d.c. that was

former white house counsel for president nixon and author of "conservatives without conscience." good evening, mr dean. we know mr. kasowitz since expressed remorse. i must ask you, is this appropriate behave for the lawyer representing the president of the united states? >> well, trial lawyers are pretty good at controlling their emotions, don. this is a very seasoned trial lawyer. he just decided to let his inner bully go out and run roughshod over this guy. it's really quite surprising. it might have been the end of a long day, as he said, but he had control of himself and he just decided to go after him and be abusive which is what bullies do. >> do you think mr. kasowitz is going to face any repercussions for his behavior? >> there are -- the american bar association's model code does have a provision that says attorneys should not do anything to embarrass the profession. so this depends on the new york bar and what -- how their view of it. they may cut him some slack as a first time, but if he has this problem again, i suspect they might give him a call. >> i wonder if it shows the amount o

myself a thorough history lesson on his politics with california, someerstood nixon could do very bad things. lowell.e a hero, mr. weicker: thank you. [applause] thattahl: did you all know fred thompson was going to the white house and getting questions and bringing them back? >> yeah. ms. stahl: you all knew that? >> no, i did not. .'m sorry, i did know as i said, there was regular communication. >> i did not. everything was on tv, and he did not have any secrets to be itling anybody, and i found sort of normal that he would be talking to the press. by the time you got to the end, every question in the world had been asked. n didn't worry about that because he thought we had nailed enough by the time we got to him. i knew about fred. i miss fred. i think he was a decent, honorable human being. ms. stahl: i'm going to jump ahead because we have a second half. how many of you think that if there had been no tape, that nixon would have served out his term? all of you? if there were not tapes, nixon would have been president until he end of his term? >> i agree with that. why do you think he did not destroy the tap

economists and former nixon speech righ right writer ben stein is here to react after this. >> mr. mccain. mr. mccain, aye . potsch: you each drive a ford pickup, right? ry: i ha gary: super cool. potsch: the bed is made of high-strength steel, which is less susceptible to punctures than aluminum. jim: aluminum is great for a lot of things, but maybe not the bed of a truck. potsch: and best of all, this new truck is actually- gary: (all laughing) oh my... potsch: the current chevy silverado. gary: i'm speechless. gary: this puts my ford truck to shame. james: i'll tell you, i might be a chevy guy now. (laughing) >> our healthcare insurance system is a mess, we all know it, something has to be done. we republicans have look for a way to end and replace it with something else, we have not found yet. i am not sure we will. all we have managed to do is make more popular a policy that was not popular when we start trying to get rid of it. i vote for motion to proceed to allow a debate, and continue amendments we offered. liz: tough words from senator john mccain, returning to capitol hi

nixon's actions and the president trump administration. this was recorded at the watergate hotel in washington, d.c. it's just under an hour and a half. mr. freedman: hello, everybody. i'

mr. kelly, because on his present course, his presidency is careening toward -- when jimmy carter and nixonyou see those questions come up from the journal editorial board, how do you react? >> i think there's a difference between the wall street journal and fox news. so i do certainly think that there is a distinction there, i do think that health care reform is something he's going to have to go back to, he's going to have to push this thing through, i don't think it's been a disaster, the fact that he got neil gorsuch on the supreme court, the stock market is at all-time highs. he does need a legislate ty victory. i thought that would come up with health care. he needs to go short, do some arm twisting and deal making and get that deal through. >> does this all come down to what john mccain said earlier in the week, that it's radio hosts and tv hosts that will support the president at all costs, that won't show the shades of gray that john was referring to, as long as there are those voices that are so loud and vitriolic that the president feels he has the support? >> they support him, b

mr. stone: elliott richardson and william ruckelshaus both refused to comply with president nixon's order that he fire special press curator archibald -- special prosecutor archibald cox. and they of course took the choice of resigning and rather than simply disobeying and waiting to be fired, which of course they would have been. neil as i mentioned is representing the state of hawaii in this case, in the supreme court. why don't you talk about your experience in the case, and what's happening and what's going to happen and all that cool stuff. mr. katyal: ok, sure, i just want to situate sally's remarks within the role of the justice department. when you're the solicitor general or sometimes the attorney general you have two , kinds of traditions that are not about zealously advocating for winning cases but just to do justice. those two traditions are being willing to -- every solicitor general, i did this and my democratic and republican predecessors did. they go to the supreme court and say, supreme court, the case that we won, we should have case,so please grant this here it, and rul

and on twitter mr trump again said the current news cycle is a witch hunt. it is the same term by the way that richard nixon william cohen was a young republican congressman from maine who would go on to become a senator and later the american secretary of defence under bill clinton. he's been a regular guest on this programme and joins us again today. when you look at what has happened over the last 48 hours with donald trump, the revelations of donald trump, the revelations of donald trump jr's meetings trump, the revelations of donald trumer‘s meetings with russia and the solicitation shown in those e—mails, how normal is that in the context of american politics because thatis context of american politics because that is what some people around the white house seem to be saying. that is what some people around the white house seem to be sayingm was not just opposition white house seem to be sayingm was notjust opposition research, when it comes to a foreign government. this is something that has the sink into the american people, that the russian government according to all of our intelligence agencies,

mr. trump helped commission a navy aircraft carrier honoring the only president to pardon another. the u.s.s. "gerald r. ford" cost $13 billion and took eight years to build. ford pardoned richard nixon after nixon resigned over the watergate scandal. the president's son and the president's former campaign chairman will talk to congressional investigators in private. donald trump, jr. and paul manafort will meet with the senate judiciary committee next week as part of its probe of russian meddling in last year's election. the committee is also negotiating for trump jr. and manafort to turn over relevant documents. they face questions about a trump tower meeting with a host of russians who had boasted of having negative information about hillary clinton. the president's son-in-law and senior adviser jared kushner, who also attended that meeting, has again revised his financial disclosure forms which is required of top administration appointees. in the paperwork filed yesterday, kushner reveals 77 previously undisclosed assets worth between $10 million and $50 million. his art collection alone is worth between $5 million and $25 million. kushner, who runs his family's commercial real e

history of the nixon presidency is actually the last to be written a confidant who served in the white house from his first two final day over four decades ago. how many others are left? mrbuchanan: i'm sure it there are some, like a joint chief and others, who have not written memoirs yet, but i'm not sure they are going to.

nixon and announce or kennedy. kennedy mentioned casually to salinger, did i mention that i called mrs. king just now? and they said, you did what? bobby kennedy is furious. he says, my god, we have lost the election. he calls the civil rights office and yells at them. he says, you are not going to do anything further in this campaign. you may have lost it for us with this one call. jack kennedy did not have a problem with it, they did. day, someonethin a close to bobby kennedy, he has wonderful oral histories about ours he was a colleague of and we interviewed him before his death, he got a call from bobby kennedy the next day and bobby kennedy is checking in and he says, bobby, i need to tell you we have a crazy wire report from tortoises you -- from georgia that says you have talked to this crazy judge. don't worry, we already put out a retraction. bobby kennedy says, you better withdraw that attraction because i didn't call him. it is very convoluted, but the governor wanted to get rid of a kind of pontius pilate thing. he called and said, we will do anything to get martin king out of the deal. bo

at revealing new books about president nixon son and obama, and as always, we'll have plenty of political analysis. it's all coming up on "face the nation." >> mr. dickerson: happy 4th of july weekend. this a past w win for president as the supreme court lifted the block on parts of his travel ban but set backs and confusion on healthcare. and an ugly outbursts from the president dominated the rest of the week. as majority leader mitch mcconnell struggled to find a healthcare bill that could pass, help craft a bipartisan bill were dismissed a by the president as insincere. thursday morning, the president embarked on a twitter rampage attacking two hosts mental states. this time there was bipartisan agreement that he had gone too far far. >> it is not normal for a grown man to be so consumed with petty vitrial >> do you regret your tweets >> mr. dickerson: and that it was a distraction from important businesslike the southern trip to washington. they suggested congress split healthcare into two parts. he tweeted. if republican senators are unable to pass what they are working on now, they should immediately repeal and replace at a later days. al

mrs. reagan really like nelson rockefeller, they worked together in 1968 . to stop richard nixonfrom getting the nomination, they were that concerned about nixon as president of the united states . >> i want to begin by thanking bill, always a pleasure to host things with bill and like to thank all of our panelists, and finally to offer my congratulations to henry olsen, a good friend henry olsen for this new book and please buy books. there for sale and hendry, they will all be here to autograph their books if they would like to. thank you so much for coming. [applause] >> [inaudible conversations] >> booktv is on twitter and facebook and we want to hear from you. tweet us twitter.com/booktv or post a comment on our facebook page, facebook.com/booktv. >> up next on "after words" syndicated columnist naomi klein discusses current politics in her book "no is not enough: resisting trump's shock politics and winning the world we need." she's interviewed by medea benjamin cofounder of code pink.

mrs. reagan really like nelson rockefeller. they actually worked together in 1968 in miami beach to stop richmond nixon from getting the nomination they were that concerned about richard nixon being president of the united states. >> i was going to -- >> here's the reagan discovery that i -- i'm so excited about that i wanted to share with the rest of the world. thank you c-span. on page 218, we read: reagan believed that you deserved a certain minimum -- minimal standard of living so long as you contributed to your ability. on page 267 of henry's book, we read that reagan believed the benefits should go to people who need them. from each according to his ability to each according to his need. where have we heard that before? >> i have to bring this to a close. want to thank bill and then i'd like to thank all of our panelists, and finally, indication to -- congratulations to henry olsen for this new book and please buy books they're for sale and they'll all by their autograph their books. thank you for coming. [applause] [inaudible discussion]

nixon when they said enough is enough. there are too many lies. we cannot swallow the lies any more. that's it mr.sident, we're not going to bat any more. we have not reached that moment yet but we need to reach that moment because the evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the trump campaign is just piling up. and you have to, it's -- it should be more than republicans can bear but i fear it is not. >> thank you all for joining us tonight. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up, congressional reaction to the trump campaign's meeting with someone who they firmly believe was a russian government official who was going to give them russian government dirt on hillary clinton, congressman eric swauld well will join us. later, a trump buying fer considers the difficult history, very difficult history, of donald trump and donald trump jr. it's ok that everybody ignores me when i drive. it's fine. because i get a safe driving bonus check every six months i'm accident free. because i don't use my cellphone when i'm driving. even though my family does, and leaves me all alone. here

mr. kelly. he had better, because on president's course, his presidency is careening toward a historic reputation where names like jimmy carter and richard nixon reside. ouch. can he make the turn? >> i think trump can say that, you know, it's all smooth-sailing and nothing is wrong here. but the fact that he is putting general kelly in as chief of staff is an acknowledgment that things need to change. that he has not been successful, his approval ratings are low. he's had legislative disappointment after legislative disappointment. >> i agree -- he believes he has not been successful. he believed reince priebus was not successful. and apparently the straw that broke the camel's back was health care. >> right. so a lot of people are looking at this and saying, at least president trump respects general kelly. general kelly was not involved in the campaign. i've been texting with people close to trump's inner circle. they say that could be a good thing. he's not chummy with the family. that could be a good thing. they think that general kelly, you know, he might not have all of this political experience, per se. but he has been in the armed forc

nixon administration years that you could not do that. the president could not do that. so that's off the table. he should look into other options. you know, maybe, i don't know, go join mr. snowden over in moscow or something. but this is not going to work. >> carrie, also in the legal realm this week, the report that the trump white house is doing in effect opposition research playing defense against mueller's team. by all accounts, if you lined up all thee erjerseys of the team mueller is assembling, they would be on an all-star team. do you think robert mueller and his co-counsel are pressurable in that way? >> no, i don't. former director muller has put together an exceptional team of lawyers. this is another aspect of the president and his white house trying to influence and potentially obstruct this investigation. whatever they are supposedly conducting opposition research of the lawyers who are on that special counsel. i view this as another part of the pattern of this white house trying to obstruct the investigation that's being conducted. the difficulty is -- or sort of the irony is that every time the president has done something like this, it backfires. he hi

nixon administration years that you could not do that. the president could not do that. so that's off the table. he should look into other options. you know maybe -- i don't know, go join mrowden over in moscow or something but the self-pardon idea is not going to work. >> carrie, also in the legal realm this week, the report that the trump white house is doing opposition research, playing defense against mueller's team. by all accounts, if you lined up all the jerseys of the attorneys mueller is hiring, they would all be on an all-star team in their particular branch of what is, in effect, white collar crime. do you think robert mueller and his co-counsel are pressurable in that way? >> no, i don't. former director mueller has put together a really exceptional team of lawyers. again, this is just another aspect of the president and this white house trying to influence and potentially obstruct this investigation by releasing publicly whatever is this information that they supposedly are conducting some kind of opposition research or looking into potential conflicts of the lawyers who are on that special counsel. i view this as just another part of the pattern of this whit

nixon in his view. do you see around donald trump anyone in that orbit who would say "you know what, mr. president, this is a terrible idea and it's unconstitutional." >> i don't and i want to call attention to anthony scaramucci when he said "cutout." "i would have a cutout go take that meeting for me." the use of that word shows this is a person who is used to trying to get around laws. i would have an emissary take the meeting, i would have my assistant take the meeting but to say cutout means we're trying to hide what we're doing here but i would hide it and stupid don jr. didn't hide it. that's the level of person you're dealing with. beyond the circle, beyond the coven. what scares me is we talk about being a nation of laws but we're only as strong as the people we have who are willing to enforce the laws and when you have a republican congress right now that seems so completely uninterested and unwilling to do its job in checking and balancing this off-the-rails president, it is why many people are starting to use the term "constitutional crisis." >> and then there's no confidence

mr. president, you got to call these six or seven guys. it was all programmed. it was a well-oiled, well-run machine. so was nixon'sextraordinarily so. neil: we live in different media times, as you know, pat. have you all the news networks and business networks and all want their administration guests and their takes, would you, just if you had to offer advice to scaramucci coming in, tell him limit the number of people you fan out, get them all on the same page, because quite often, i discovered a cursory read of watching them, they're all over the map. >> that's what you need to do. what i would do, first you have to get to the president and try to get control of his message to the degree you can. secondly, ought to have a meeting of all the communicators who are going to go out and say, look, here's the message we're pushing, here is the issue, i'm sure they've tried to do this, it comes naturally, neil, but my guess is these things break down because of the tweets and because of -- you call in the "new york times," and talk to them for 45 minutes. neil: yeah, and no one apparently knew about that. [ laughter ]

continuity, but nixon did not win, and suddenly, the man they considered kind of a neophyte playboy junior senator from massachusetts, they play him and present this plan to him. they say, mr. president, we have this all set up. the exiles are trained. there will be no u.s. involvement. they will win. the cuban people are going to rise up because they do not like castro, and kennedy says let's do it, but wants to make it clear they will be no u.s. involvement in this, except secretly. the lies are built into the plan from the beginning. they said no, no u.s. support will be necessary. well, they were playing him. could notthat it succeed without u.s. support, but they figured that kennedy would be trapped, that he would say, we cannot lose face. a communist defeating the cuban exiles at the bay of pigs -- how could we tolerate that? the world would lose respect for us. they knew they were manipulating him into having to provide that support. the invasion starts. cuban exiles are getting massacred and captured. sayhey come to kennedy and we were wrong, we need the air support after all thinking of course he would have to say yes, told you, noays, i air support, and you told