fine. >> mr. nixon, a lot has been said about a new mr. nixon. a kind of newness? >> well, my wife says i've got less hair than i've had before. you know, the hairline goes back a bit here and there. others discover that i, perhaps, have a sense of humor, which i think i've always had, but, perhaps, people didn't see it. i'm -- i'm really the most difficult man in the world when it comes to a so-called public relations firm. nobody's going to package me. nobody's going to make me put on an act for television. i'm not going to engage in any gimmicks or any stunts, wear any silly hats. if people looking at me say that's a new nixon, then all that i can say is, well, maybe you didn't know the old nixon. >> ready. ♪ >> absolute quiet in here because they can pick up everything. >> remember, it's extremely informal and we can slice it out of the tape if we don't like it. and if it doesn't work, we do it again. ♪ >> here. i don't care about six inches. we move it from here. over here, i don't care what it looks like as long as it -- >> see, when you're

i think mrs. nixon does not get the credit for just what an incredible political mastermind that she was. this is the hardest working person on the president's campaign. to think about it and richard nixon's campaign he had gone from congressman to senator to vice president of the united states, and in all of these campaigns, some of them were difficult. 1952 running for the vice presidency when the scandal on the finances corrupted and how that personally wounded her so much because it was a challenge to their integrity, not so much a challenge to policy and to projects, to their integrity. person, shequiet did not have to be the loudest voice in the room, she was wounded by that, and you can understand why. i was watching this wonderful tape, and it brilliantly encapsulates everything she was about. i was thinking, i wish he had could -- i wish he could have seen that, then i thought, get a grip, she never would have let do something like that, never in a million years, she was much too modest to thin

mrs. trump recently went to active combat zones. mentioned mrs.s nixon going to one and mrs. bush. i was wondering if you could tell us what that was like and did miss nixon -- mrs. nixon get much press coverage? >> that is one of the first things that i really learned and admired about mrs. nixon, the she went to an active combat zone and it was while i was working for mrs. bush and went to the national constitution center and there was an exhibit about for slater's -- first ladies. she i did not know is that is the most travel first lady in history, 81 countries and no one has eclipsed that and then really studying more and peeling back the layers. in terms of coverage at the time , i'm not sure. i will say that ireland commends the nixon foundation because the last couple of years you are seeing so much more attention paid to the contribution of this much she did, but theimpact she had and impact on women and women's rights and the fact she is the only first lady that was given the title of personal representative of president so as a global diplomat no one comes close. we had di

mrs. nixon was not unique to me. she was gracious to every single person she ever met. in every capacity, young and small. she traveled the world relentlessly beginning in 1953. she set a pattern for the second lady which was unique to when she became first lady she was the first want to visit not only africa, south america as first lady tot as the first go to china and the ussr. she always insisted on seeing people. children, schools, orphanages. she wanted to get out of the diplomatic protocol and talk to people. it was there she exhibited on behalf of america the same kind of kindness i experienced firsthand. [applause] >> wasn't she an amazing first lady in so many ways? i want to start with patty mattson who i covered at the , beginning of the for ford administration. patty you had already been hired , as a speechwriter and deputy press secretary for pat nixon. you told me once she had a keen eye for what was appropriate, and she was shaped by her growing up. how hard she worked. the work e

that's mrs. nixon. he is a very personable young man. edly be a great asset to the republican ticket. >> the whole nixon family considers it a great privilege to work for the election of the presidency of general eisenhower. and although trisha and julie are a little too young for active campaigning mrs. nixon will travel with me throughout the country and i think you will find that she is one of the best campaigners on record. >> well, i certainly will do all i can. >> after all, i was only 39 years old. and to even be considered for vice president, particularly running with general eisenhower, for whom i had enormous respect, was to me something you only dreamed about. >> a headline in the "new york post" newspaper said "secret rich men's trust fund keeps nixon in style far beyond his salary." >> the revelation that senator nixon, republican vice presidential candidate, was receiving what amounted to a private salary, an extra salary from private persons in california is becoming a major political story. some republicans are embarrassed

asked what she would like to do about a ceremony and she said she really wasn't up to a ceremony so mrs. nixonvited mrs. kennedy and her children to come back for a private viewing and i remember they locked down -- the house was locked down that day when mrs. kennedy -- mrs. onassis was coming back. nobody could enter into the east or west wing into the residence rea. they invited them up to the private corridors and julie and trisha showed the children the rooms that they had been in when the kennedy children were young and then president nixon invited them for a lovely private dinner and i thought that was one of the most gracious things they could have done at that time to privacy rs. onassis' and give her her time, her one time she came back to the white house. she wrote the most beautiful letter you could imagine saying that the knicksons made the day she most dreaded a wonderful experience for her and her kids and it just -- it would bring a tear to your eye to see this letter. she was also very complimentry nixon about how the white house had been improved and that there were more dark

mr. nixonoes not second guess his field commander. >> teddy kennedy is far and away the democratic front-runner for president in 1972. >> 1972, the great many stories about muskie/kennedy ticket, kennedy/muskie ticket. i want to just say tonight right now there is absolutely no truth to those stories. ed muskie hasn't picked a vice president yet. let me say, neither have i. [ laughter ] >> for democrats the young massachusetts senator, last of the kennedy brothers, speaks out strongly on the major issue where conflict arises with president nixon and republicans generally. >> all of the so-called intellectual elite, the so-called better people, were against what we were doing in vietnam. they thought we should get out. whatever the cost might be. well, if they wanted to end the war, they should have supported what we were trying to do. rather than to sabotage our efforts to end it. >> the president asks for time to end the war, but these people think he's had enough, and they hope the american p

mr. nixonnd to obey the law of the land. the people are beginning to respond. the anger and outrage reflected in these telegrams. all of them demanding that the congress act and impeach the president. >> impeach nixon now! impeach nixon now! impeach nixon now! >> good evening. the president agreed to do just what he had always said he would not do. turn over certain tape recordings of his conversations about watergate. >> mr. president -- >> mr. president, wonder if you could share with us your thoughts when you hear of people saying perhaps you should resign or be impeached. >> well, i'm glad we don't take the vote of this room, let me say. >> mr. president -- >> at the risk of re-opening an obvious wound, what is it about the television coverage of you that has so aroused your anger? >> gentlemen of the press, one can only be angry with those he respects. as a matter of fact, i have never heard such outrageous vicious reporting in 27 years of public life. but regardless of what people see and

we took it very seriously. >> with that vote, mr. nixonly the second in all of our history to confront removal from office through the only means provided in the constitution, impeachment. >> i stood by nixon and felt he should remain in office, but then we discovered the tape of june 23rd. this was fatal. >> good evening. president nixon stunned the country today by admitting he held back evidence from the house judiciary committee, keeping it a secret from his lawyers and not disclosing it in public statements. mr. nixon issued transcripts of three recorded conversations he had with h.r. halderman on june 23rd, 1972, six days after the burglars were caught in the watergate. >> you open that scab and there's a hell of a lot of things that we just feel that this would be detrimental to have this thing go any further. >> the facts came out. yes, the president himself, not only was he involved in this but he directed this criminal operation. >> they should call the fbi and n. and say that we wish for couldn't trib don't go they further into

he said you can call her mrs. nixon or you can call her madame ambassador.ut i guess i will just call her pat. welcome home, pat. ♪ >> for 32 years, it is a partnership, forging a political career together, bringing up a family together. the bond strengthens with the years. she believes in him. helpmate. they share in the joy of victory, but their bond is also tempered in the crucible of defeat. >> if this trend does continue and he becomes our next president, that he will have my wholehearted support. [applause] ♪ >> the men she shares the triumph, the nation welcomes a new president and a new first lady. pat knows that the white house is many things. center of official ceremony, executive headquarters, but more than any time before, it is the place where the people are welcome. at every reception, guests find the first lady a hostess of dignity and warmth. in their first two years, the president and his first lady entertained 13,000 guests at dinner alone. pat is the president's lady and more. out of her desire to serve from with her deep interest and rapp

mrs. nixon realized the republicans were losing ground on this.gislation and bills that support women, and she worked very closely with the office of women's issues and the white house to get more appointments of women in the federal government. explore our nation's past every weekend on c-span3. sunday night on q&a, american university distinguished professor of history alan crown looks back on policies of managing immigration. >> i would argue that current wave of nativism, anti-immigrant sentiment, xenophobia, is not different from what we have seen in the past. to beit seems to us peppered with acts of violence and urostomy, there have been other acts of violence, anti-immigrant riots before the civil war, in the 1880's. there have been a lot of moments in american history when the anti-immigrant sentiment has been translated into true ugliness. 8:00tched sunday night at eastern on c-span's q&a. toledo, ohio, is known as the glass capital of the world. next, we learned about edward libbey and his role in turning toledo into the glass city. the

. >> now, mr. nixonon easily and he wasn't even campaigning, which shows you how well a politician can do if he keeps his mouth shut. >> here we are. reagan and carter. ♪ what kind of choice is this >> mark russell would get at his piano and make gentle fun at politicians, but so gentle that he would go hang out with them afterwards. ♪ can it be true ♪ no matter which one wins ♪ the loser's me and you >> i would get criticized more often for being too gentle than for being too harsh. i was not a bomb thrower. i was not an anarchist. i was too safe. >> i kept seeing pictures of kennedy and khrushchev together, which they look like they need a new caption. the pictures were fine. dad, may i have the keys to the car? >> mort sahl was overtly political and partisan. the idea of a comedian really taking a stand, having a point of view, this was something new. >> when john kennedy became president, mort sahl was doing bits about kennedy, many of them very hard-hitting and people were surprised. he just saw him

most of them demanded impeaching mr. nixon forced to appoint a new special prosecutor. and as the months went on, bit by bit he was forced to turn over the tapes. they were as damning as he had feared. white house counsel john dean's testimony turned out to be entirely accurate. >> how much money do you need? >> i would say these people are going to cost a million dollars over the next two years. >> you could get a million dares, and you could get it in cash. i know where it could be gotten. >> it was clear nixon's defenses were beginning to crumble. >> would you consider the crimes to be impeachable if they did apply to you? >> well, i've also quit beating my wife. >> the meeting will come to order. >> in july of 1974, in a packed hearing room, the house judiciary committee began to debate removing the president. >> make no mistake about it. this is a turning point whatever we decide. >> committee chairman peter row dino was a democratic machine liberal from newark, new jersey. he was new to the job. some doubted whether he c

agnew and mr. nixon.r family, but as i said, i begin to realize some of the virtues he has politically, and some of the ways i admire him for that, and i guess i am proud of him. quite proud. >> he will never get it right. it is a different set of --. you better leave it. we have 30. >> i flunked a course in poetry and i love it. >> joe in indiana. >> put it on channel 30. this is terrible. put it on channel 30. >> this is nice. >> just the small town that have come in so far. so we are waiting to see how the cities are. that will obviously really cut and us. -- and us. -- really cut into us. >> joe, now, i am scared. >> dodd is getting a lot of republican votes. yup. oh, half an hour. >> look at that! >> look at that! >> dodd is ahead. he got a big vote in hartford. >> we are ahead of dodd by 626. >> the vote is 360. dodd, 96. that is in the town of goshen. [indiscernible] >> dedario won. >> well, here we are. >> 31% of the 648 voting places -- >> where is this? -648 polling places. >> yes. getting in th

mr. nixon was a student of the presidency.sion of what americans and what he expected of a president. now, he fell short of that. he didn't want the public to know the gap between what he thought they expected from a president and the reality of richard nixon, so when the public began to realize the difference between the real richard nixon and the ideal president, it really undermined his credibility with the public. donald trump on the other happened, donald trump says what you see is what you get, and by saying, you know, richard nixon said, americans, you don't want a crook as your president, i am not a crook, donald trump is saying, americans, you understand me. you know what i do, you know the enemies i'm fighting. i am corrupt, but you don't really care, do you, because what's more important to you is i stay in office. these are fundamentally different approaches not only to the defense against an impeachment inquiry, but they're differential visions of the presidency. donald trump hassen from the start reworked the pre

in the case of watergate, mr. nixon had two attorney generals who facilitated this. of whom went to jail and here we have mr. barr, the attorney general, at the center of all of this and what mr. barr has been doing, and the first day after the whistle-blower's complaint was revealed i said, on this hour, just about this hour, this is about william barr's attempt to produce evidence that a deep state conspiracy began, that's where we're going here. rather than focusing on what indeed the president of the united states has done, we are trying to invent a conspiracy they somehow was about joe biden and his actions. >> and, doug, rudy giuliani acting as the president's personal lawyer. there are people in the white house, in the administration, who think he's doing more harm than good. what do you think? >> no question he is. he seems to be just unspooled, rambling around, traveling around the ukraine, fumbling and bumbling through everything he does and says. you know, people are wondering about whether giuliani is cope is menas, does he have his wits about him? his eg

she was also very complementary to mrs. nixon about how the white house had been improved. she said there were no dark corners anymore in the white house, that she had done a beautiful job. >> learn more about former first lady pat nixon sunday at 8:00 p.m. at midnight eastern on "the presidency." this is american history tv, only on c-span3. >> next on "lectures in history," daniel richter of the university of pennsylvania teaches a class on 18th-century power struggles among native americans, colonial settlers, and european empires. the class was part of a seminar for high school teachers hosted by the gilder lehrman institute of american history in partnership with the library company of philadelphia. >> i am here in philadelphia at the center for early american studies at the university of pennsylvania.

paris negotiations off dead center -- >> after making that public lie, nixon doubles down on his cover-up in a very private call. >> mr >> yes? >> this is dick nixon. >> yes, dick. >> this conversation is a master class in political subtext and subterfuge. >> i just wanted you to know any rumblings around about somebody trying to sabotage the saigon government's attitude, certainly have absolutely no credibility as far as i'm concerned. >> i'm very happy to hear that, dick, because that is taking place. now here's the history of it. i didn't want to call it -- >> you've got two guys sort of bluffing each other. johnson wants nixon to think he's got the goods on nixon himself. nixon wants johnson to think he has nothing to do with this. >> my god, i would never do anything to encourage hanoi, i mean, saigon, not to come to the table, good god, we want them over in paris. we've got to get them to paris or you can't have a peace. >> lbj knew there was collusion with the south vietnamese government to keep them from negotiating a peace. what lbj couldn't prove definitively was that nixon was involved. >> somebody of the o

nixon,to cheer up kissinger says, mr. president, history will treat you well. depends on whot writes the history. nixon been 50 years since became president and 45 since he he died. 25 since how has history treated richard nixon? ambassador lord: it depends on what platform you are talking about. domestic policy, whether it is the environment or women's rights or going off the gold it is wrong for the critics to say that is the only good thing he did. china, they say it was inevitable. it took great courage and even on air force one coming home they did not realize the impact of the chinese military army playing american songs. the first summit that had a major impact. it was seen as a great triumph. the american people had been fatigued by the vietnam war and racial riots, assassinations, demonstrations. people were depressed. nixon -- i think deserves great credit. on, a kinder go history will be -- the kinder history will be. he did some bad things. and he paid for them. it is a shame. i am not saying they were not deservedly paid for. he did thanks that were

he goes on to look back, "mr. nixonrosecutor know the court was willing to back down. what what happened? a good guess is that mr. roberts would stand up to the -- for the clear constitutional precedent." it is the strongest part of to have noah feldman and jonathan bernstein. what is the summation of where someone like feldman says it is a constitutional crisis? is, in that we are moving in uncharted territory. the constitution does not specify how impeachment is to be constructed, and donald trump and his supporters are seizing on that ambiguity to sow confusion. tom: within america, there is confusion. crisis andity of a then the judiciary. init perceived that way washington? marty: there is a lot of news around the supreme court with the two new appointees, and how loyal they would be to the trump presidency and a constitutional question about which branch of government takes precedent. i think at will wind up there. tom: what do congressional reporters say about the strength and endurance of speaker pelosi? marty:

to fully authorize it as was done with clinton and nixon. mr. jeffries: we are in the rocess of communicating to the american people what's at stake in terms of the wrongdoing done by the president. donald trump betrayed his oath of office. he abused his power. by pressuring a foreign leader to target an american citizen for political gain and withheld $391 million in aid to accomplish that invidious objective. that is textbook abuse of power. it betrays and undermines our national security as well as the integrity of our elections by soliciting foreign interference in the 2020 election. that is the issue. now, it's my understanding that my colleagues on the other side of the aisle are strict constructionalists. they believe in the original intent of the united states constitution. there is nothing in the united states constitution that requires the house of representatives to vote on an impeachment inquiry. there is nothing in supreme court precedent. there is nothing in the federal ules of procedure. there is nothing in the house rules. they a

nick ackerman was one of the watergate special prosecutors in the case against us president richard nixon mr ackerman is in new york tonight's and he joins me from there mr ackerman welcome to the program . when you look at what has been reported reported from the depositions that have been offered so far what do you think is the case for impeachment now clear cut. yeah i think it's pretty clear cut the congress makes it pretty clear that a president under the constitution makes it clear that a president can be impeached and then removed from office for high crimes and misdemeanors and bribery and we kept a clear case of bribery i would donald trump holding back the funds that were procreated by congress for the defense of ukraine holding back a visit to the white house in return and both as this is for an investigation into the biden's a mr trump's chief political rival in the upcoming election so it seems to me this is a pretty clear case as it is now and the congress over the last 3 or 4 weeks has developed a pretty strong factual basis to move forward on this mystery in the year you say

and i think trying to cheer up nixon, kissinger says, you know, mr. president, history will treat you well. and nixon says, that depends who writes the history. it's a years since nixon became president, 45 since he resigned, and 25 since he died, and how is history treating richard nixon? >> that's a good question because it is hard to general lize. it depends what platform you're talking about. i think it's oversimplified for even his critics to point to the china opening, as if that is the only thing he did. if you look at this exhibit. i must say the domestic policy, whether it is the environment, or women's rights, or going off the gold standard, as well as his foreign policy, but other, the middle east, and detante, it is wrong for critics to say that is the only good thing he did. and in the owe bit. it is water gate and china. and even on china they say inevitable. it is easier for him than hubert humphrey because nixon's right flank was protected where humphrey would have gotten pummelled by the republicans. but it took great courage, as i sai

mr. president, even richard nixon released his tax return. mr.tax returns or shut up. >> reporter: republicans are still voicing frustration than impeachment inquiry they say is being conducted in secret without due process. >> the soviet style tactics shouldn't be allowed. >> reporter: at least 135 republicans are cosponsoring a resolution to censure adam schiff regarding his depiction of the presidents ukraine call during a televised hearing. but it will likely be set aside or killed tomorrow. >> you have a fabricated alleged conversation. >> reporter: democrats are mixed between lawmakers who are prepared to vote for impeachment and those who want to continue investigating. >> inviting interference in our election as a quit quote pro for military quid pro quo for military protection is an appropriate. >> we have a lot more to do and we are doing it. >>> authorities in santa barbara say the wife of the actor who starred as tarzan who was then tabbed to shot and killed by deputies. it happened last night at the home in santa barbara of ron of st

mr. president, even richard nixon released his tax returns. mr. president, release your tax returns or shut up. >> so you wouldn't change anything? >> no, i don't. because i never discussed with my son anything having to do with what was going on in ukraine. that's a fact. look, guys, let's focus on what the problem is here. the problem is a corrupt president engaging -- the reason why he is running after me is he knows i will beat him like a drum. he understands that. have you ever heard of anybody going out and getting these special interests, all of whom i have beaten, the nra, the gun manufacturers, the health care people. across the board, have you ever heard any time that they've spent millions of dollars going into the primary of another party to try to eliminate a candidate before they can get a chance to beat them? i mean, come on, this is so obvious. this is so obvious. as i said, rudy giuliani and the henchmen and trump's lawyers, how many of these folks are in jail? these are the president's people, for god's sake. this is a corrupt, t

mr. president, even richard nixon released his tax returns. mr.lease her tax returns or shut up. >> reporter: you don't regret anything? >> no, i don't. because i never discussed it with my son anything having to do with what was going on in ukraine. that's a fact. look, guys -- let's focus on what the problem is, here. the problem is a corrupt president engaging -- the reason why he is running after me is he knows that i will beat him like a drum. he understands that. have you ever heard of anybody going out and getting these special interests? all of whom i have beaten? the nra, the gun manufacturers, the health care people. across the board. have you ever heard any time that they spend millions of dollars going into a primary of another party to try and eliminate a candidate? to try and beat a candidate before they can get a chance to beat them? i mean, come on. this is so obvious. this is so obvious. as i said, rudy giuliani on the henchmen, and trump's lawyers, how many of these folks are in jail? piece of the president's, for god's sake. thi

mr. president, even richard nixon released his tax returns. mr.ent, release your tax returns or shut up. >> no, i don't. i never discuss with my son and having anything to do with what's going on in ukraine. here is a look, guys, let's focus on the problem here. the corrupt president engaging -- the reason why he's running after him because he knows i will beat him like a drum. he understands that. have you heard anybody going out and getting the special interests all of whom i have beaten, the nra, the gun manufactures and the healthcare people across the board, have you ever heard any time they spent millions of dollars going into a primary or another party to try to eliminate a candidate from trying to beat a candidate before they can get a chance to beat them. come on. this is so obvious. as i said rudy giuliani and the hench men and trump's lawyers. how many of these folks are in jail? these are the president's people for god's sake. this is a thoroughly corrupt t outl outlet. if i am not mistaken and i did not coordinate any of this with my

mr. hoyer: madam speaker, the whip continues to ignore the fact that they're very different circumstances. there were two special prosecutors with respect to nixon. and one special prosecutor with respect to mr. clinton. that was a radically different position than we find ourselves in today. mueller, by the way, was appointed by the deputy attorney general of the united states, a republican, appointmented by the president of the united states of america -- appointed by the president of the united states of america, mr. trump, not our guy. he appointed. that the misses special -- he's now a special prosecutor, but i forget exactly what his title was. in any event. wasn't a special prosecutor. but he did in fact find that there was reason to believe that there was obstruction of justice. mr. scalise: he had authority. he filed no charges. he found nothing that rose to the level of filing charges. that he had the full authority to do. mr. hoyer: that is inaccurate. mr. scalise: that is accurate. mr. hoyer: that is inaccurate. mr. scalise: did he file a charge? please name. it i haven't seen the charge -- name it. i haven't seen the charge. mr. hoy

nixon administration's foreign policy approach. he is the author of kissinger on kissinger: reflections on diplomacy, grand strategy, and leadership. mrnt nixon's relationship with his secretary of state henry kissinger and how it was instrumental in developing foreign policy strategies. >> good evening, ladies and gentlemen. nixonith the richard foundation. before we introduce our distinguished speaker this evening, i wanted to mention a couple of special guest. distinguished speaker's daughter here and her husband. we have betsy hewitt

famously, barry goldwater is asked by president nixon whether or not there were the votes on a potential article and he said yes, mr. president, there are and frankly i would probably vote for it myself. i do want to suggest the republicans and the nixon period were eager to impeach nixon are they were always rigorously neutral, they were not. but they behaved as we would expect american-statesman to behave. they were interested in facts, they were prepared to make hard judgments even when against their own political party. one would at least hope that congress in present day might take a lesson for those guys. >> a history of impeachment in the age of trump, mark bowman frank bowman is joining us. west virginia, good morning, ed. >> good morning. it sounds to me as though the democrats are investigating the president for impeachment. republicans can even get their appeal. >> let me stop you. what republicans, >> despite what you are hearing from some of the president's defenders, what is going on in the closed hearings are that all of the members of the committee doing the investigation are present, if they want t

by the way, even nixon released his taxes. [laughter] mr. biden: where are his taxes? what is he hiding? what is he afraid of? what is buried in those returns? why can't the american people see them? why can't he release them? [applause] mr. biden: i have released 21 years of my tax returns. every penny i have made. he will use the justice department against anyone he believes threatens his power and ability to stay in office. the justice department is intervening on trump's behalf in his personal lawsuit to hide his finances from the public eye. trump has proven he will use the state department against anyone who believes he believes threatens his power or's ability to stay in office. he will order the removal of career diplomats who will not carry out his whims without question. does anyone doubt he would use any other part of the government, any power available as president to destroy anyone? anyone he believes threatens his ability to stay in power or behind the veil? the ability to stay in office? when i announced my candidacy, and i did it here as well, i said i

nixon. he gave a roadmap. mr. mccabe: unfortunately the roadmap is incredibly dense, tough to follow, so you lose the opportunity to kind of deliver that final conclusion. you lose a lot of the audience. essentially, what happens with that report is based in some extent on how strongly people feel about it. you miss out on the opportunity to show folks how substantive it is. you have to really wade through that with a lawyer's eye for detail or an investigator's eye for detail and most people don't have the time or interest to do that. carl: there's nothing in the report that talks about any significant communications between paul manafort and donald trump the candidate. did you or were you aware of any such communications that bore on the investigation that you undertook, that might not have been put in the report? mr. mccabe: i do know, but i can't tell you. i'm kidding. [laughter] carl: trying to make a little news. mr. mccabe: you've got to remember, we handed off those cases at a very kind of early stage. i w

mr. hoyer: madam speaker, the whip continues to ignore the fact that they're very different circumstances. there were two special prosecutors with respect to nixon. and one special prosecutor with respect to mr. clinton. that was a radically different position than we find ourselves in today. mueller, by the way, was appointed by the deputy attorney general of the united states, a republican, appointmented by the president of the united states of america -- appointed by the president of the united states of america, mr. trump, not our guy. he appointed. that the misses special -- he's now a special prosecutor, but i forget exactly what his title was. in any event. wasn't a special prosecutor. but he did in fact find that there was reason to believe that there was obstruction of justice. mr. scalise: he had authority. he filed no charges. he found nothing that rose to the level of filing charges. that he had the full authority to do. mr. hoyer: that is inaccurate. mr. scalise: that is accurate. mr. hoyer: that is inaccurate. mr. scalise: did he file a charge? please name. it i haven't seen the charge -- name it. i haven't seen the charge. mr. hoy

nixon. don't blame me. [laughter] mr. matz: but to answer your question, maybe that could have been grounds for impeachment, but impeachment was not feasible. that is, the gulf of tankan resolution was a thinly veiled mask. we know that. it seems to me, for the president -- or the yellow cake stuff and the reasons for going to war in iraq made up, lies, a fabric of lies, lying in order to get the nation into war, i think passes our threshold of being impeachable, but the point of much of her book is -- so? it's impeachable. what do you actually move to impeach? what will happen next? how will the president react? will that build up a momentum of that we need? mr. matz: in 1983, for example, maybe other folks want to ask questions, want to give them a chance. president reagan sent u.s. military forces to grenada without congressional organization -- authorization. a member of congress, ted weiss, said you can't do that, that is a clear misuse of presidential power. what was great about this guy is he was a real manhattan d

nixon. the same decision was made. mr. mccabe: it could be rescinded by the department of justice if their interpretation changed. carl: we are just going to do one point. >> the second part is a very small question. it has to do with the mental state of the president. the man who changes his opinion faster than a camel changes his color, something is wrong here. >> question? >> can we forcibly subject him to a psychiatric evaluation? carl: i'll take that one. no. mr. mccabe: i don't think you can. [inaudible] >> i ask you this question. how concerned are you -- where are we headed -- [inaudible] mr. mccabe: so, i am absolutely optimistic about our future and the future of this nation. we are stronger than the times we are in right now. we have been through worse crises in this country before. gotten through those crises. by rallying around those things that bind us together, by understanding that we all want to live somewhere that is free and fair and just. we have drifted from that for the moment. we have some tough situ

mr. zelensky. former director of the nixon library, tim naftali and nia love.what do you think this means that volker is going to be talking? he's mentioned in the whistle-blower complaint multiple times. how key could he be? >> well, he's the person that rudy giuliani -- >> i think you said nia. >> sorry. thank you. >> my whole life, and so, yeah, this is the person that rudy giuliani has been talking and he's waiting around his phone and those text messages and he's sort of the conduit between rudy giuliani and folks in ukraine and we do know that after this conversation that the president had with zelensky. at some point you've got this ambassador volker going over and talking to zelensky. what did he say? was he actually counseling zelensky in terms of how to deal with the president? how much did he know about this idea of whether or not there actually was a kind of quid pro quo in terms of the money held up? we'll see, if he's a democrat and you see that he resigned and he's now not necessarily under the auspices of this administration because that freed h

nixon, how many votes am i going to have in the senate. i know i'm going to be impeached. stunning moment, goldwater said mr. president, i counted, and there are four very firm votes for you. i am not one of them. and the next day nixon announced he was going to resign. he was withdrawing from the battlefield, and if you look back on it, you know, 45 years ago, he has to get some credit for nothi program from senator blunt, he wouldn't even discuss the conduct of the president. >> yeah. >> brennan: he said, he didn't really mean what he said. >> he didn't want to defend them. none of them want to defend the conduct. the few who are speaking out on his behalf are attacking the process. the other side is partisan, the other side is unfair. the other side are whistleblowers and spy, all that, not talking about what the president did and whether that's okay. i did a survey if you will of a former white house chief of staff going back the reagan, republican and democrat, over the last couple days. not one of them could remember a circumstance where they solicited or accepted foreign help in the context of somethin

even richard nixon released his tax returns. mr. president, release your tax returns or shut up. >> matt? >> i think the former vice president is getting at two very important points there. one is the really -- the word he used is "thug," thuggish way that the president has run the government to try to take every instrument of government power and use it not to serve america's best interests, but his own personal political interests, something we've not seen from a president really since richard nixon, at least in this scope. and the second is just the blatant hypocrisy coming from the white house, where you hear the white house, you know, accusing the former vice president of being corrupt. accusing his son of trying to profit from the -- from the fact that his -- that his dad was the vice president. when you have trump personally profiting from his time in office, you know, because he hasn't divested his own interest and his son is going around and signing deals in foreign countries after the president saying he wouldn't do that a

famously, barry goldwater is asked by president nixon whether there were the votes on a potential article and he said yes, mresident, there are and frankly i would probably vote for it myself. i do want to suggest the republicans and the nixon period were eager to impeach nixon are they were always rigorously neutral, they were not. but they behaved as we would expect american-statesman to behave. facts,re interested in they were prepared to make hard judgments even when against their own political party. help thatat least congress in present day might take a lesson for those guys. impeachmentory of in the age of trump, mark bowman -- frank bowman is joining us. west virginia, good morning, ed. caller: good morning. it sounds to me as though the democrats are investigating the president for impeachment. can even get their appeal. host: let me stop you. --t republicans guest: despite what you are hearing from some of the president's defenders, what are going on in the closed are hearings are that all of the members of the committee doing the investigation are present, if they want to be, in the hearing room w