mr. nolan, who is in that pool of eager applicants? guest: men with chemical -- criminal convictions. host: how are why are they being excluded? guest: frankly, most company hr departments automatically toss out anyone with a conviction, no matter how long ago it was, and no matter how clean a life they have lived since. it is a mark of cain. it makes it very difficult to get employment, if employers would only look behind the conviction and see how long it is, and what kind of life they have lived. they would have a shot at it. the fact is, the employers that you hire, they find them more loyal, more hard-working, less likely to quit, and of course, we save them a whole bunch of money from having to keep hiring new people and trying them out. as a player said to me, dealing difference between those with a record and those without our -- i don't know the background of those that don't have a record. i do know the those with. i can see if they've been leading a productive life since. host: from the pages of years -- or peace, -- your pi

mr. nolan, who is in that pool of eager applicants?men with chemical -- criminal convictions. host: how are why are they being excluded? guest: frankly, most company hr departments automatically toss out anyone with a conviction, no matter how long ago it was, and no matter how clean a life they have lived since. it is a mark of cain. it makes it very difficult to get employment, if employers would only look behind the conviction and see how long it is, and what kind of life they have lived. they would have a shot at it. the fact is, the employers that you hire, they find them more loyal, more hard-working, less likely to quit, and of course, we save them a whole bunch of money from having to keep hiring new people and trying them out. as a player said to me, dealing difference between those with a record and those without our -- i don't know the background of those that don't have a record. i do know the those with. i can see if they've been leading a productive life since. host: from the pages of years -- or peace, -- your piece, col