. >> mr. nye, your counter rebuttal. >> thank you, mr. ham, but i'm completely unsatisfied. 680,000 years which require winter summer cycle. let's say you have 2000 times and set aside in. that makes the problem even works for kerry. multiplying 11 by three and a half week at 235, 40 species every day that we don't see. in fact, you probably know we are losing species due to the safety minute dignity and loss of habitat. then commissars know i've that would've been an extraordinary ship rate, i am very skeptical to shipwrights, my ancestors in new england spent their whole life learning to make ships. i mean, it is very least will perhaps see you that now i have superpowers and was able to build this extraordinary craft with seven family members. to me, it was just not reasonable. either way, the fundamental thing we disagree on, mr. ham, is the nature of what you can prove to yourself. this is to say when people make assumptions based on radiometric data, when they make assumptions about the ending universe, when didn't make assumptions

mr. bill nye and mr. ken ham. [applause] we had a coin toss earlier to determine who would go first. the only thing missing was joe namath and upper code but it went very well -- and a for code. ur coat. ken ham one and opted to speak first. mr. nye's website describes him as a scientist, engineer, and inventor. awardduced a number of winning tv shows including the program he became so well known for "don't nye the science guy ." he won seven national emmy awards for the show in 118 emmys in five years. he wrote five kids books including his latest title. bill nye is the host of three television series. the eyes of nye airs on pbs stations across the country. he frequently appears on programs to describe a variety of scientific topics. mr. nye serves as executive director of the planetary society. he is a graduate of cornell, bachelor of science degree in mechanical engineering. mr. ken ham is the president and cofounder of answers and genesis . behind the popular high-tech creation museum where we are holding this debate. the museum has had 2 million visitors and attracted much of t

what is going to happen is we will go back and forth between mr. nye and mr. ham. the other will have one minute to answer the question. mr. ham, you have been a first. mr. nye, you can stand by. how does creationism account for celestial bodies moving farther apart and what function does that serve in the grand design? >> when it comes to looking at the universe, we believe that in the beginning god created the heavens and the earth and creationist astronomers say you can observe the uninverse expanding. he it says he stretches out the heavens and seems to indicate that there is an expansion of the universe. we would say yeah, you can observe that in that fits with observational science. i cannot answer that question. the bible says god made the heavens for his glory and that is why he made the stars that we see out there. it is to tell us how great he is. one of our programs looks at this when you see how large the universe is and it shows us how great god is. how big he is and he is and all-powerful god and infinite, all-knowing god who created the universe to s

mr. nye will have the last word. what is the one thing more than anything else upon which you base your beliefs? >> well, again, to summarize the things that i've been saying there is a book called the bible. it's a very unique book. it's very different from any other book out there. in fact, i don't know of any other religion that has a book that starts by telling you that there's an infinite god and it talks about the origin of the universe, the origin of matter the origin of light, the origin of darkness and the origin of day and night and the origin of the earth, the origin of dry land, and the origin of plants the origin of the sun, moon and stars, the origin of the sea creatures, the origin of flying creatures, the origin of land creatures, the origin of man the origin of woman, the origin of death, the origin of sin, the origin of marriage, the origin of different languages, the origin of clothing, the origin of nations, i mean it's a very very specific book and it gives us an account of a global flood in the

mr. bill nye and ken ham. [applause] >> we had a quaint house earlier to determine who would go first of these two men and the only one missing was joe namkuth and a first coat. mr. ham one that claimed foss and he opted to speak first. but first, but they told you about these gentlemen. mr. nye's site describes him as a scientist, engineer, comedian and author author. he produced a number of tv shows including the one that he became so well-known for, "bill nye the science guy." mr. nye won seven awards for writing, performing at producing the shows come as he won 18 emmys in five years and in between creating the show's committee wrote five kids books about science including the latest title, bill nye's great big book of tiny germs. he's the host of three television series that programmed 100 greatest discoveries on the science channel, the eyes of nye across the country and he appears on interview programs to discuss a variety of science topics. mr. nye serves as director of the planetary, th about science s

mr. bill nye and mr. ken ham. [applause] >> we had a coin toss earlier to determine who would go first of these two men. the only thing missing was joe namath and a fur coat. but it went very well. won the coin toss and he opted to speak first. but first, let me tell you little bit about both gentlemen. bill nye's website describes him as a scientist, comedian, author and inventor. he produced a number of tv shows, including the program he became so well known for --bill nye, "the science guy." while working on the show, he won seven national emmy awards for writing, performing, and producing the show. the show won 18 emmys in five years. in between creating the shows, he wrote five kids books about science including his latest titled "bill nye's great big book of tiny germs." bill nye is a host of three television series. his program the 100 greatest discoveries air's on the science channel. frequently appears on interview programs to discuss a variety of science topics. bill nye serves as executive director of t

mr. nye, you can stand by. how does creationism account for celestial bodies moving farther apart and what function does that serve in the grand design? >> when it comes to looking at the universe, we believe that in the beginning god created the heavens and the earth and creationist astronomers say you can observe the inverse expanding. he it says he stretches out the heavens and seems to indicate that there is an expansion of the adverse. we would say yeah, you can observe that in that fits with observational science. i cannot answer that question. the bible says god made the heavens for his glory and that is why he made the stars that we see out there. it is to tell us how great he is. one of our programs looks at this when you see how large the universe is and it shows us how great god is. how big he is and he is and all-powerful god and infinite, all-knowing god who created the universe to show us his power. can you imagine that westmark the thing that is remarkable as it says on the fourth day of creation

mr. nye will have the last word. what is the one thing more than anything else upon which you base your beliefs? >> well, again, to summarize the things that i've been saying, there is a book called the bible. it's a very unique book. it's very different from any other book out there. in fact, i don't know of any other religion that has a book that starts by telling you that there's an infinite god and it talks about the origin of the universe, the origin of matter, the origin of light, the origin of darkness and the origin of day and night and the origin of the earth, the origin of dry land, and the origin of plants, the origin of the sun, moon and stars, the origin of the sea creatures, the origin of flying creatures, the origin of land creatures, the origin of man, the origin of woman, the origin of death, the origin of sin, the origin of marriage, the origin of different languages, the origin of clothing, the origin of nations, i mean it's a very , very specific book and it gives us an account of a global flood i

>> mr. nye won 18 emmys. bill nye is the host of three television series a programmed to 100 greatest discover res. airs on pbs stations across the country. mr.nye serve as executive director of the planetary associate. he is a graduate of cornell, bachelor of science degree in mechanical engineering. the answers and genesis is well trafficked with two million visitors. mr.sham also a best selling author and host of daily radio feature carried on 700 stations. this is his second public debate on evolution and creation. ferris at -- first at harvard in 1990s. now, mr. ham, you offered to go first. you will be first with your five minute opening statement. >> good evening. i know that not everyone watching this debate necessarily agree with what of to say. i'm an aussie and they tell me i have an an accent. it doesn't matter what i say some people tell me, we like to hear you saying it. the main topic is this, is creation a modern of origin. this was first announced on the internet, there were lot of states lik

now let's all be attended to mr. nye. >> thank you very much. mr. ham, i learned something. thank you. let's take it back around to the question at hand. does ken ham's creation model hold up? is it viable? for me, of course, take a look. we are here in kentucky on layer upon layer of limestone. i stop the side of the road today and picked up this piece of limestone that has a fossil right there. in these many layers, in this vicinity of kentucky, there are quarrel animals, fossil. when you look at it closely, you can see they lived their entire lives. they lived typically 20 years, sometimes more than that. when the water conditions are correct. we are standing on millions of layers of ancient life. how could those animals have lived their entire life and form these layers in just 4000 years? there isn't enough time since mr. ham's flood for this limestone that we're standing on to have come into existence. my scientific colleagues go to places like greenland, the arctic, they go to antarctica and they drill into the ice with hollow drill bits. it's not that extraordinary.

mr. bill nye and mr. . >> i take genesis as literal history as jesus did. >> reporter: versus evolution. the founder of creation museum ken hamm taking on bill nye the science guy. the two squared off in a 2 1/2 hour debate that aired online. >> your view that was suppose to have taken place is more important than what i see with my own eyes. >> we do see a collapse of christian morality because generations of kids are being taught the bible can't be trusted. >> reporter: at one point they argued over whether noah could have realistically built the ark. >> to me it's just not reasonbling. >> why would you say it's unskilled? i didn't meet noah and neither did you. >> reporter: the national center for science education told cbs news it finds such debates counterproductive in part because, quote, for a scientist to engage in a formal on-stage key bait with a creation nift is to legit ma tiez the creation nift's position. >> please, you don't want to raise scientists who don't understand how we understand our

mr. ham, i learned something. >> reporter: nye starts out cordially enough but then takes a hard run at ham'sd created the earth 6,000 years ago and then flooded the whole planet 2,000 years later. >> there's a famous tree in sweden, old tico is 9,550 years old. how could these trees be there if there was an enormous flood just 4,000 years ago? >> the noah story comes in for particular scrutiny. >> somehow noah and his family were able to build a wooden ship that would house 14,000 individuals. and these people were unskilled. >> reporter: now the two men have a chance to take one another on directly. >> why would you say noah is unskilled? i didn't mean noah. neither did you. >> as far as noah being an extraordinary ship right, it's very reasonable perhaps to you that noah has superpowers. >> reporter: nye goes after a claim that scientists find particularly galling that dinosaurs and all other animals were vegetarians because the bible said so. i have not spent a lot of time with lions, but i can del they have teeth that raept really weren't set up for broccoli. >> bears have teeth very muc

nye ando much to mr. mr. ham. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> the debate continues on our facebook page. one comment the rights another says you can join the conversation too at facebook.com/cspan. >> the beauty of america is that in this country, we have the ability to write the script of our own life. we are in a sense in the driving seat of our own future. our biggest decisions in life are made by us. creates the sense of possibility. out of that, you can become an activist, a community organizer. what are you doing? you are living off the great capitalist explosion of wealth that you didn't even create. >> so many strongmen, it is hard to know when to begin. nobody said america is the most terrible place. there are a couple of assertions that you have to take on faith that are astonishing. one is the idea that america's great invention was wealth creation. what about the entire continent? that doesn't mean -- [applau