mr. matt o'brien, mr. o'brien is the director of immigration that the immigration reform law institute where he oversees the investigation into fraud, waste and abuse in the application enforcement of the nation's immigration laws. he previously served as an immigration judge in the various position with the department of homeland security. professor amanda frost. ms. frost is the junior professor of law at the university of virginia undergraduate alma mater. professor frost research focuses on immigration and citizenship law, federal courts of jurisdiction and judicial ethics we think our witnesses for appearing today we will begin by swearing un. please rise and raise your right hand. >> to swear or affirm under penalty of perjury that the testimony you're about to give us true and correct to the best of your knowledge information and belief so help you god. let the record reflect that the witnesses have answered in the affirmative. thank you. please be seated. please know that your written testimony will

mr. larry o'brien trophy etched in it, of course, showing the number of championships that the golden statet 2022 most recent championship first won at chase center. talk to me more about this incredible nba experience. kelly flatow you're with global affairs here with the nba. you get to travel all over the world for your job. and you're bringing this experience here to san francisco. can you tell us what this week has been like for you so far? >> oh, it's so great to be in the bay area. die hard dubs fans here and to be able to, you know, really increase our footprint, be able to do events in oakland as well as here in san francisco. and of course, here at nba crossover, it's our ultimate fan experience. so it's one of the best places to hang out. >> yeah. you i very much feel like a kid in a candy store. you get to play so many games, you get to do so many things. how cool is it to see adults and kids having the same kind of excitement and fun as anyone else here? >> oh, it's the best part of my job to be able to see the smiles on fans faces and be able to run around this incredible bask