mr orban is moscow's closest ally in the european union. expected measures at an upcoming nato leaders' summit in washington. prime minister orban has made it clear that hungary will not participate in these nato efforts and i accept this position. and i'm glad that today the prime minister and i have agreed to modalities for hungary's nonparticipation in nato's support for ukraine. our correspondent nick thorpe sent this report from western hungary. jens stoltenberg, the nato secretary general, came to hungary today, just one month before washington summit, a very crucial summit for nato, at which it will try to redefine its relations, take over a much more important relationship towards ukraine, co—ordinating financial and military support to ukraine, in this very difficult time for the ukrainian government. mr stoltenberg then came to budapest asking, seeking guarantees from viktor orban, the hungarian prime minister, that hungary will not block those changes within nato towards ukraine, that co—ordinating role, nato's new mission for uk

mr. orban ally in the european union. for more, nick thorpe sent this report from western hungary. nick: young stoltenberg, the nato's secretary-general, came to hungary today just one month before the washington summit, a very crucial summit for nato at which it will try to redefine its relations, takeover a much more important relationship toward ukraine, for -- court needing financial and military support to ukraine in this difficult time for the ukrainian government. mr. stoltenberg came to judah past -- to judah past -- to budapest seeking guarantees from victor or ben that hungary will not block the changes toward ukraine, coordinating nato's new mission for ukraine. mr. orban sought and got guarantees that hungary can effectively opt out of financial and military commitments to ukraine. mr. orban has made no secret of his be open that continued western military support for ukraine is just prolonging the war. he is calling for an immediate cease-fire followed by negotiations. both mr. sto

was voiced personally, but it must be understood that mr. orbánuite an experienced politician, and he has interests orban in the first place, one might even say not only. about the interests of hungary, namely the interests of orbán, and they dominate all our bilateral negotiations, about the 11 demands: the first point, it is necessary to understand very clearly that this is about the process, yes, that is, the things laid down there, which definitely require a lot of time for their implementation, for their implementation, even for their approval, and this was basically the calculation, further it is necessary to understand that the process... from the negotiations, well, that is, now there is a lot of talk that orban artificially puts sticks in the wheels of european, in ukrainian european integration, this is possible, but let's not forget that our process, accession is still a bilateral process between ukraine and the european union, and no matter how much hungary wants to influence it, how no matter how other countries want it, let's not for

the anti-orban mayor won for the second time, well, coming back to what you say that i don't like mr. orbaning that they say to him, you know, as comrade orban, and a comrade, he is a comrade. well, for me in general, you know, for me, mr. tibor, it is strange, the year 56, i remember constantly, and it was not such a sluggish self-defense as in czechoslovakia, in 68, it was a real struggle in the streets against the regular soviet army , and people shot, killed, and and fought for a shorter time, not just there by itself'.

anti-orban mayor won for the second time, well, coming back to what you say , that i don't like mr. orban for a reason, they say to him, you know, like comrade orban. comrade, he is a comrade, well, for me in general, you know, for me, mr. tibor, it is strange, the year 56, i remember constantly, and it was not such a sluggish self-defense as in czechoslovakia 68 year, it was a real struggle in the streets against the regular soviet army, and people shot, killed and, for a short time, fought, not just there by themselves... burned, but also fought, and after all this, moreover, orbán in the late 80s x, in the early 90s, there was such an anti-soviet so-and-so, and he was noticed precisely with his anti-soviet approaches, and now he has become soviet again, that this, this is just the same corruption that he is talking about, because for me, for me this genesis is not clear, i can't understand a person who would become like a dissident i'm against the soviet past, against yanish kadar, i'm such a re-europeanist, but 10 years have passed, there's no europeanness here or there 20, what's in

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a special look at events in ukraine and beyond. what kind of world is he dreaming of, mr. orban, all this in an informational marathon with mykola veresny. saturday 17:10, sunday 18:15, at espresso. we are working live, this project speaks for velikiy lviv, and today we are talking about whether there is any framework for the negotiation process with the aggressor, with the occupier of the russian federation. after the peace summit in switzerland, both zelensky and the head of the president's office, yarmak, said that they were at the second summit similar, the russian federation may already be present and a dialogue may begin there, and an important nuance is that we will not have to wait for this summit with our hands, but for months, and now the president's office is actively working on it, meanwhile , putin travels to the same dictators as him, in particular met with kinchener, in. yes, and they held a meeting, even signed agreements on joint actions, on supporting each other, in case of which, and this is actually quite dangerous, experts say about this, we showed photos, n

in ukraine, there will be some katsaps on the border of kyiv and beyond, what kind of world does mr. orban dream of, can we imagine it? all this in an informational marathon with mykola veresny. 10 sunday 18:15 at espresso. events events that are happening right now and affect our lives. of course, the news feed reports on them. however, it is not enough to know what is happening, it is necessary to understand. antin borkovskyi and invited experts soberly assess the events, analyze them, simulating ours future. every saturday at 13:10 with a repeat at 22:00. studio zahid with anton borkovsky at espresso. hello, greetings, i’m andriy yanitsky, gulsum khalilova, my colleague in the studio, this is a joint, joint berber project, or together in ukrainian, a joint project of espresso and the crimean tatar tv channel atr, and today in the second part of the program we will talk with iskender bariyev, the head of management of the crimean tatar resource center, mr. iskender, greetings, greetings, good day, good day. well, if we talk about the results of this week and what happened on the territor

what a world mr. orban dreams of. all this in an informational marathon with mykola veresny.events that are happening right now and affect our lives. of course, the news feed reports on them. however, it was not enough to know what was happening. it is necessary to understand. antin borkovsky and invited experts soberly evaluate events, analyze them, modeling our future. every saturday at 1:10 p.m. with a repeat at 10:00 p.m. studio zahid with anton borkovsky at espresso. see this week in the judicial control program with tatyana shustrova. candidates for the vrp according to the president's quota. how to save up for luxury property while eating rations from the state? i am a person who knows how to save. and what new facts of judge gorbasenko's dishonesty have been discovered by the state administrative court. the assets were analyzed and it was concluded that there is none. no questions congratulations, the court is on the air control. institutional rebooting and personnel renewal of the judiciary based on the norms of professional ethics and integrity is the basis of the j

understand that there is also a certain movement among other eu member states, which try to convince mr. orbantime because it is necessary to support such... ukraine, or at least not to interfere with everyone, that is, when the decision to start negotiations was being made, hungary also had its own demands, and these demands were discussed, how can they be included, how can ukraine be convinced to fulfill these demands, and therefore these are the tragi, these are these, we can expect that they will follow, but for now we see that...some compromises are being found with orbán, and someone in the european union does have an influence on him, that his conviction every time, still make decisions that allow us move further along this road to the european union. what other obstacles from which countries can be encountered on this road to the european union? well , it is actually very difficult to predict right now, because we will continue to open negotiations. some disputes will arise on various chapters of european legislation, yes, some clash of interests with other countries, members, we have

mr. orbanperson who advocates putin's interests in the european union, this was said repeatedly by observers, as now, which orbán's relationship with russia and whether these, you know, mutually bad things that were, have faded, or on the contrary, they remain at the level they were before. well, look, they, if they were extinguished there, if it seems to someone, then it is a delusion, because viktor orban, starting from on the 10th, 2010. i mean in the year of the 12th, very actively cooperated and continues to cooperate with russia, you understand, there are such strong ties, and not only political, but financial, that it is so easy to leave them... it will be difficult, of course there was a chance after the beginning of russia's invasion of ukraine, yes, but viktor orban decided not to use this chance, he believes in russia, believes that it is winning in ukraine, so he will not, let's say, tear break those ties and will continue to be her lawyer in the european union, i say this so calmly

elections, then i will i think we will win in the first one. as soon as i heard this direct speech of mr. orbanely caught the word, we will be able to in a few words, we will be able to win in the first half, and i think what the first half means, i already even to vasyl. i thought, maybe he meant some kind of duel in the first half or something else , no, he can do something about the hungarian national team, no, he himself then explained everything, he said that now we are waiting for donald trump to bring the second half to the usa , and then peace will come, and if neither the first nor the in the second half, he will come up with something else, he will definitely come up with something, that is, people like korban and trump, they are always lukashenko who are the same, and there are many of them, i just know them, you can go on and on. they will in any case find something to justify their actions, even if they were wrong these actions, he will still twist and give in, it was meant to be. well , let's move on. it would seem that gas is more about money, but if it is about gas in times of w

in ukraine, there will be some katsaps on the border of kyiv, and beyond, what kind of world does mr. orbanof, can... imagine it? all this in an informational marathon with mykola veresny. saturday 17:10, sunday 18:15. espresso. we continue the saturday political club broadcast by vitaly portnikov, and we then have a practical hour to chat with mr. vitaly, let's probably start with these statements of putin, which alarmed someone, someone accepted them with humor, someone says that this is madness, there are different opinions, then. stated that he actually has his own demands, that he rejects all the vision that ukraine has , that the civilized world has, putin says that ukraine should not become a member of nato, says that 5 regions of our country should, in fact, even legally, according to international law, become part of russia, what was it? in accordance with international law , he did not speak, well, he spoke about what it is necessary to recognize, to recognize, we understand that to recognize, we are talking about recognition, if recognition is recognition within the framework of

what a world he dreams of mr. orban can... imagine it, all this in an informational marathon with mykola veresny, saturday 17:10, sunday 18:15 on espresso. greetings, i'm olga len, this is the chronicles of the war, and first of all i remind you about our very important collection for the repair of armored vehicles in the combat zone, because we are already reaching the finish line here. almost so much has been collected and we are approaching, a very important collection for our two best brigades, in the soledar and zaporizhia directions , the repair and restoration regiment is working in full force. mainly on the line of contact, in the gray area, in the open air, at night, this is all necessary for the extra recovery and return to the battlefield of damaged military equipment, bmps, tanks, minibuses, a very important thing, please join us, we need to collect uah 600, 30,00, there are already 563, we really hope , what about 100 00 we... will collect, well, for this week, maybe a little more, so look, here you see a q

especially. view of events in ukraine and beyond its borders, what kind of world does mr. orbánm of, all this in an informational marathon with mykola veresny, saturday 5:10 p.m., sunday 6:15 p.m. at espresso. 16-year-old victoria andriets. before the start of a full-scale war, this girl lived. on the left bank of the kherson region in the skadovsky district in the village of gladivka. the territory was occupied almost in the first days of the russian invasion, and the connection with the girl was cut off almost immediately. where she is now is still unknown. it is quite likely that the child could be taken to russia, but of course it is not excluded that victoria may still remain somewhere in territories not controlled by ukraine. and i really hope that with your help we will be able to find the girl. let's take a closer look at her photo: victoria now looks 16-17 years old, she has brown eyes and blond hair. if suddenly someone has seen the girl or knows where she might be, immediately call us on the hotline of the magnolia children's search service at the short number 11630.

a special look at... actions in ukraine and beyond, which the world dreams of, mr. orban all this in an informational marathon with mykola veresny, saturday 5:10 p.m., sunday 6:15 p.m. on espresso. this is a football format and june is the time of the euros, the time of the topic, the national team of ukraine, and therefore this is the main topic, we are back, the national team ukraine, the german national team, the choice of the opponent, which ukrainians, which germans. well, you have to respect the germans, because they do a lot, we already mentioned the match in bremen last year, 3:3, and here is this match in nuremberg, although the weather was like this, there were doubts whether they would play at all? well, yes, even the press conference was moved from nuremberg to the adidas head office, so it is clear that the weather always affects the spectacle, the presence of fans, the result, in principle, if the conditions, we understand that under bad... conditions and can be there can there are no injuries there, nor are there the consequences we expect from the control

stoltenberg also wrapped up a visit with hungarian prime minister viktor orban in budapest mr. orbaning that his country would not block nato decisions on giving support to ukraine in return, he says, stoltenberg promised the hungry would not have to provide funding for assistance to kyiv meanwhile, ukrainian expected to get about $50 in a new loan from its g7 allies. their leaders. a meeting in italy this morning and the announcement could come within hours. claire sebastian joins me now with just explain where this money is coming from this something that has been in discussions for months, if not really, almost all of this now, almost two-and-a-half year old war is because as politicians have seen, the level of funding needs of ukraine go up, the level of fatigue among their politicians also go up. >> they've looked to these frozen russian assets. you remember that the beginning of the war there was this major sanction, almost unprecedented that came in well, the west froze russian central bank assets some 300 billion of them that are sitting mostly in europe a little bit in the u

months ago, so i think that the next parliamentary elections may be the last for orbán, at least there is a possibility, if this mrt of the opposition unite, then i think that orbán's chances would be... less and less, that is, you know, this public, which is dependent on moscow, it cannot be otherwise, but well, that stoltenberg has now agreed with him that he, oman, will not interfere with ukraine's accession to nato, and i think that the same and the same formula will now be agreed with regard to the european union, and we, of course, are not angry people. yyatny, but such a friendly position in quotation marks... we will really remember hungary, by the way, we can now listen to what jens stoltenberg said about how hungary will not participate in nato's decisions regarding ukraine, but it will not to block them, let's listen to the secretary general of nato. prime minister orbán made it clear that hungary will not participate in this nato effort, and i accept this position, no hungarian... will participate in this activity, and no hungarian finances will be used to support it. at the same time, the prime minist

ago, so i think that the next parliamentary elections may be the last for orbán, at least there is such a possibility, if this mrhe rest of the opposition unite, then i think that orban's chances will be less and less, that is , you know, this public, which is dependent on moscow, it cannot be otherwise, but it is good that stoltenberg has now agreed with him that he, orman, will not interfere of ukraine's accession to nato, and i think that i, too, am like that the formula itself will now be agreed upon, and what... about the european union, well, we, of course , are not ill-memorable people, but we will really remember hungary's friendly position in quotation marks, by the way, we can now listen to what said jen stoltenberger, regarding how hungary will not participate in nato's decisions regarding ukraine, but will not block them either, let's listen to the nato secretary general. prime minister orbán made it clear that the hungarian will not participate in this nato effort, and i take this position: none of the hungarian personnel will participation in this activity and no hungarian finances will be used to

few months ago, so i think that the next parliamentary elections for orbán can be last, at least there is such a possibility, if this mrrest of the opposition unite, then i think that orbán's chances will be less and less. that is, you know, this public, which is dependent on moscow, it cannot be otherwise, but it is good that stoltenberg has now agreed with him that he, orman, will not interfere with ukraine's accession to nato, and i think that the same the very same formula will now be agreed upon regarding the european union, well, we, of course , are not spiteful people, but that is the friendly position of hungary in quotation marks. we will really remember by the way, we can now listen to what jens stoltenberg said about how hungary will not participate in nato's decisions regarding ukraine, but will not block them either. let's listen to the secretary general of nato. prime minister orbán made it clear that hungary will not participate in these nato efforts. and i accept this position. none of the hungarian staff is a brother. participation in this activity and no hungarian finances will be used to support it.

orban. well, the very end of our conversation, mr.the world 2 global summit should take place at the end of the year. andriy yermak has already announced that this summit may take place in saudi arabia and does not rule out that russia may take part in this summit. so what kind of... positions of moscow can we agree with, that they participate in this peace summit and in general, well, what does their presence at this peace-2 summit mean, the initial positions are very well known, where the occupation of the entire territory, including donetsk, luhansk region and crimea, well, the second is the return of all prisoners and compensation for losses, at least , that's all. and further, summits are a good thing, but this year there will be nothing, i will tell you briefly, no, there may be summits. there will be no decision, and why did i already say, because everyone will wait for november 5, then there will be a certain period, that is, no matter how much we want it, and the ukrainian side said that the plan will now be concrete, these a

they didn't do it , so it is a trade that is inappropriate, as would say putin orban, well, the very end of our conversation, mr. valery, the global summit of mir 2 should be held at the end of the year, andriy yermak has already announced that this summit may take place in saudi arabia, and i do not rule out that... in this summit may to participate in russia, what initial positions of moscow can we agree with, that for them to participate in this peace summit and in general, well, what does their presence at this peace summit-2 mean, the initial positions are very well known, the de-occupation of the entire territory, including donetsk, luhansk oblast and crimea, well, the second is the return of all prisoners and compensation for losses, at a minimum, that's all, then the summits. this is a good thing, but nothing will happen this year, i will tell you briefly, no, there may be summits, there will be no decision, and why did i already say, because everyone will wait for november 5, then there will be a certain period, that is, how would we they didn't want that, and the ukrainian side said that the plan will

better, i will do differently, and in general orbán is old, discredited, he should go, and his whole party, that's it his entire campaign was being built, mrbefore the news, i wanted to ask, and when in the second half of the eu council is chaired by hungary, orbán will wear a trump cap and t-shirt, will he not wear it, because they make europe great again, this is an option now only to wear a t-shirt with trump. look, they already have everything, they have a cap. they have a t-shirt, they have body wraps, you know how they do it, that's why they, well, yes, yes, yes, a tattoo shop, well, that's what it's called, i don't know, but they have everything, i don't know if he will start giving it away, but really they are preparing for trump, under trump, without joking, and you should not underestimate orbán in this regard, because he will try to unite the european right under an alliance with trump, and this is a dangerous thing, uh, but there is hope, it's mrs. meloni and the polish dog, to us it is necessary to work with them so that this right-wing agenda is not exactly anti-ukrainian. mr. dmytro, thank you for the analysis of the current

today, they would re-elect orbán, who would shout: let's finally kiss putin and finally spit on zelensky, or something else, that something might change in hungary, please. mrdmytro, well, let me start with the fact that they are not exactly blocking moldova, they say we are in favor of opening negotiations with moldova, but there is a question regarding ukraine, the formal binding is to ensure the rights of the hungarian national minority, hungary after the summit, two summits, more precisely, in december 2023, when negotiations with ukraine were officially opened, and on january 24- th year, where 50 billion was allocated, rolled out the spear. of the 11 so -called requests, they say that until ukraine fulfills all these requests, well, until then they will block, but i would take a simpler approach to this, because these 11 points, not that the rights hungarian national minorities are unimportant, this is absolutely not the case, in general, this legislation regarding the rights of national minorities, you know, is important for ukraine itself, this is our test of europeanness and this is our test of building a political nation, are we really able to bui

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development, oleg, and we can come to you, and orban, the slovak leader , would not have appeared if... i can’t help but introduce our esteemed viewers to mrrdela, leader of the far-right national rally party, joined the union at the age of 16, later abandoned his studies in sarbona to devote himself to politics, during the 2017 presidential elections was part of the election team of marine lepin, the second chairman national unification, in november 2022 he was elected to succeed maria lepen as head of the same party. igor vladimirovich, do you think such a young talent will be able to win and shake up the french political system? by the way, yes, by the way, this is how the party drew conclusions from the mistakes of previous years, now to start this game again, the question is still that he is very unpopular, the french are very unhappy, so it may not work here, but we will wait, watch, observe, and you know, alekseevich, at the end of our program i want the words of the belarusian leader alexander lukashenko to be heard, about new faces in politics, please, primarich, the generation of politicians is changing, new people are coming, yo

respond to the request from society, one to one orban, one to one solovyov and one to one federal russian channel, just word for word, that is, this rhetoric. mr. andres, thank you, well, at least it is clear that they simply translate such messages into german with a duplicate. andreas umlen, analyst at the stockholm center research of eastern europe, was with us, well, actually. if we are already talking about the elections, then the results are already emerging in slovakia, at least the exit polls give some information about the fact that the representation of the power movements will prevail in the european parliament, because the fizo party can win five mandates, claims now, and three her allies from peligrini, that's the story, slovakia has a total of 15 mandates, they also vote in the young belgorod people's republic, and there just minus the composition of the bc, a large number of voters. look how saint hymars has arrived, it's right here in these minutes, well, here we go, welcome to the espresso tv channel, the project is about politics, about the world, watch it, it will be interesting, it's about politics, it's about politics, abo

mr. volodymyr, i am glad to welcome you. sir vladimir, right away i would like to ask you about such an unusual event for russians today: the russian media today are very actively writing about orban's so-called peace march, which took place, which is so pompously reported by everyone and russian partners, and they present it as if it such an event, almost... on a european or a planetary scale, what is it, is it some kind of complex multi-way operation together with the russians, or is it, relatively speaking, the initiative of orbán himself, where he wants to advance his own point of view and his agenda, well, you know, orbán doesn't such an independent figure to promote something like this, he, unfortunately, is becoming more and more... an obvious puppet of the kremlin and does everything that is dictated to him from moscow. it is very sad, because in fact, it undermines the unity of the european union, it undermines the unity of nato. he acts, indeed, as a trojan horse, with the help of which moscow wants to separate the european union and nato. well, actually, for moscow it is... the dream of all possible dreams.

orbán, but i i don't... go into details, at least publicly, because these are such closed consultations and they must remain confidential. thank you for the opportunity, i represent the ukrainian media, and mrcretary, please tell me that the first peace summit will be held on switzerland day, and in order to promote the peace formula proposed by the president. please, are there certain expectations from nato and how the situation on the battlefield can affect the results of the actual discussions during the summit, what principles are acceptable to nato when we talk about a peaceful settlement? so, of course, we welcome the holding of the peace summit, we strongly support all efforts to find a peaceful solution, i know that very... many member countries will gather and also representatives of the alliance will be present at the peace summit. the most important principle, or the most important principle for nato, is once again for ukraine to decide what can be an acceptable solution. we cannot decide this at the nato headquarters, which is acceptable or unacceptable for ukraine. we are talking about a sovereign, independent state, ukraine, which was attacked, and that is why it is has the ri

mr. minister sijarto. if there was even a tenth of this energy spent on peacebuilding, there would be far fewer dead and less destruction today. i really like, like peter szijjártó, that his boss viktor orbánantly uses such comparisons and metaphors: the war party, supporters of peace, supporters of something else, well, he understands very well that there is nothing to be said for throwing around such words. .. won't help, it would be better to give weapons, and at least not block the allocation of weapons to ukraine, no, and that would be much more, better, well, now i am from the minister of foreign affairs of hungary let's move on to the prime minister of this country, who also spoke about peace in our country. peace in ukraine depends on, there should be a drum wire of the united states of america. he is the only person in the world who can do two. phone calls, one to moscow, and the other to kyiv and end this war. this statement was made by hungarian prime minister viktor orban in an interview with the german funke media group. moreover, such a unique person, the savior of the universe, i would call it that, the head of the hungarian government believes, well, there should be another

mr. trump referred to hungarian prime minister vÍctor orban as, quote, grade leader of turkey, end quote.their chosen leader, donald trump presents with symptoms which are quite frankly scary. the american people can see through this republican charade, this is just an ugly exercise to hurt president joe biden, let's move on. and with that i yield back. >> gentleman yields back, gentleman from kentucky for five minutes. >> the additional aid that was voted onto go to taiwan would cause the island to tip over in any point in the future. >> you know what, i hope that -- i hope that the island of guam is floating on water and not on diesel fuel. that's the point i was making. and i think that the gentleman my question, my mental acuity but let's look at -- >> relameing my time. >> the gentleman from kentucky. >> he claiming my time. i the upmost respect from my colleague on the other side of the aisle. the point i wanted to make is that statement we make statements tongue-in-cheek that we are metaphorically speaking and that the president most certainly in most of those cases was doing that