mr. osiecki, do you have anything you want to say about that? >> senator, the trucking industry has tried really hard to get its drug testing positive rate belo low that one person be tried all different types of things. in 2011 that was the first of which are industry dropped below that, that magic threshold 1% to 2012 we don't yet know the date although the administrator just indicated it may be below that threshold again. that really brings the question, if all of the other modes, it after a, federal railroad, federal transit, if they have already reduced their industry's random population from 50% to 25%, why wouldn't the trucking industry be in that same category, particularly since this is set up as an incentive-based program many years ago? we essentially met incentives, i understand, and we are not being rewarded as i understand. >> the incentive and the initial incentive package that you can keep a low 1% for two years, then you have to do fewer samples to but you still have to report. >> that's correct. >> it does seem to me that you c

mr. david osiecki, anything you want to say about that? >> center, the trucking industry has tried really hard to get its card testing positive rate below that 1%. we tried all different types of things to move into various types of testing. that was the first year our industry dropped below that magic threshold in 2011. 2012, we don't yet know the deputy administrator just indicated it may be below that threshold. that brings the question, if all of the other modes, ffa, febrile railroads, federal transit, if they have already reduced their industries random population from 5225, why wouldn't the trucking industry be in that same category, particularly since this was set up as an incentive based program many years ago? we essentially met the incentive, as i understand it and are not being rewarded. >> in the initial incentive package keep below 1% for 2 years you have to do fewer samples, but you still have to report. >> that's correct. >> right. >> is seems to me. if you can't go back and if you change the incentive after you go through