mr. packer. >> nice to see you. >> stephen: thank you so much for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >>en: you have a new book called" the assassin's gate "that sounds ke one of those sqlon lecare thrillers, is there a hot sex scene in it? >> there is not. >> stephen: so what is it about. >> actually there is a little bit of iraqi sex jokes in it, but it is more of a serious book about the iraq war an its origins and how we got into this mess and whose's over there, soldiers, civilians, iraqis, it's kind of a --. >> stephen: answer all those questions for me, how did we get over there? didn't the presidency a need, wasn't there a threat, wasn't it imminent, did we have to do it? >> no the. we didn't. >> stephen: okay, that's not what i was told. >> we were told there was an imminent threat. >> stephen: okay. >> what were you told? >> stephen: i was told they could bomb us in 45 minutes with a remote controlled drone plane, i seem to remember that. >> and you believed it? >> stephen: did you support the war when it started. >> i did. >> stephen: and you didn't believe it. >> i didn't. >>