mr. pallone. >> i know you've got these figures in your mind about -- >> they are right here. >> i understand what i would point out, when you are going to cover all these people and they are going to have to -- they are going to primary care and are going to see a doctor, they are going to be a lot more health care professional jobs to take care of all of the primary care to deal with all of these people now health insurance and i want to respond with we yield to dr. fox because the bottom line is you suggested that we are headed towards bankruptcy or whatever. that is what is happening under the status quo. the status quo more and people are not we do have insurance. premiums are going up 20, 30%. the percentage of the gross national product is devoted to health care and keeps climbing. it's twice what it is in any other developed country. if we don't do me anything i have no doubt we are going to be bankrupt but here we are proposing a very rational way of trying to corrupt the system and put a

mr. pallone, for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. pallone: thank you, madam speaker. i'm amazed when i hear my colleagues on the other side of the aisle. they seem to ignore the fact that our health care system is in crisis. millions of americans are going without health insurance. rising health care costs are bankrupting so many american families. now, democrats today have proposed a bill that will lower health care cost, give almost all americans quality health care coverage, the same as members of congress, and i'm going to repeat that. the same as members of congress, and put an end to insurance company abuses. when we passed this bill -- when we pass this bill, 32 million more americans will be able to see a doctor on a regular basis. america's seniors will get more help to get prescription drugs to keep them healthy and out of the hospital. americans will be healthier, fewer people will get seriously ill and incur outrageous medical bills for hospital and nursing home care and healthier people save the government and health care

mr. pallone, for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. pallone: thank you, madam speaker. i'm amazed when i hear my colleagues on the other side of the aisle. they seem to ignore the fact that our health care system is in crisis. millions of americans are going without health insurance. rising health care costs are bankrupting so many american families. now, democrats today have proposed a bill that will lower health care cost, give almost all americans quality health care coverage, the same as members of congress, and i'm going to repeat that. the same as members of congress, and put an end to insurance company abuses. when we passed this bill -- when we pass this bill, 32 million more americans will be able to see a doctor on a regular basis. america's seniors will get more help to get prescription drugs to keep them healthy and out of the hospital. americans will be healthier, fewer people will get seriously ill and incur outrageous medical bills for hospital and nursing home care and healthier people save the government and health care

mr. pallone: thank you, madam speaker. we need health care reform now and failure to act is not an option. doing nothing on health care reform doesn't mean that nothing happens. people will continue to lose coverage to pay more in premiums, to be banned for pre-existing conditions, to have caps on coverage and other discriminatory practices. by doing nothing for eight years, the republicans essentially endorsed these things things. and it isn't a choice, madam speaker, between the reform plan that we have or nothing. the real option is how everything will continue to get worse. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? mr. poe: i ask permission to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. poe: madam speaker, yesterday an armed mexican military helicopter was spotted and photographed over a residential area a mile inside the territorial boundary of the united states. tex

mr. pallone. >> i know you've got these figures in your mind about -- >> they are right here. >> i understand what i would point out, when you are going to cover all these people and they are going to have to -- they are going to primary care and are going to see a doctor, they are going to be a lot more health care professional jobs to take care of all of the primary care to deal with all of these people now health insurance and i want to respond with we yield to dr. fox because the bottom line is you suggested that we are headed towards bankruptcy or whatever. that is what is happening under the status quo. the status quo more and people are not we do have insurance. premiums are going up 20, 30%. the percentage of the gross national product is devoted to health care and keeps climbing. it's twice what it is in any other developed country. if we don't do me anything i have no doubt we are going to be bankrupt but here we are proposing a very rational way of trying to corrupt the system and put a

mr. pallone:.8% in england. there's not quite as big a zrep answery. but if you are one of the 9% or 7% in these different categories or even 41% that are going to die because you don't live in the united states then you probably think the united states is the place to be for health care. you take out the murder statistics and make all countries deal with the statistic of premature babies who die after they are born, the united states would be at the top of the life expectancy chart. i appreciate the gentleman yielding. mr. king: reclaiming my time, i appreciate that input. we've seen what the data is on survival rates for cancer in the united states versus canada, great britain and one other country and there's another point that has been made. i say it's been made consistently by the president of the united states. it's been made by the speaker of the house, and that's this point that there's nothing in any bill that's likely to pass the house or senate that could become law that doesn't fund abortion or illegals. this is the joe wilson argument. i'l

it is pallone and the american people know it and with that i would feel back to the gentleman from mississippi. >> mr. chairman i believe i would yield to mr. hensarling. >> i thank thank the gentleman for yielding. i think i heard earlier in the gentleman from virginia say culp we are going to spend the money anyway. chewer words were never spoken from my friends on the other side of the aisle. if i could pull up chart five yet again please. okay, for arguments sake, for arguments sake, let's assume that somehow the federal government in this instance has managed to overthrow decades if not centuries of program more efficiently. all the savings accrue. would say our friends on the other side of the aisle actually found some savings. is it used for deficit reduction as we hear so often? that our friends want to achieve? well, no. we are going to spend the words anyway so we can't pay for the entitlement spending we have as we look into the abyss of red ink, so let's just increase, let's increase the pell grant program that we already have today. let's increase something that we can't afford. now, i w