mr. pascrell. >> thank you, mr. chairman. dr. elmendorf, thank you for coming before us again and opening the pleasant season for the next two years. i want to respond to my brother from georgia what he said before about how we have an increased spending since 2008, beginning january, 2009 when president obama raised his hand. i think we're all here to roll up our sleeves and find a long- term solution to the debt. but just as we know that increased revenue is not going to solve the entire problem by any stretch, neither, we can't cut our way out of budget difficulties either. so when you look at what's happened in terms of budgets since 2009, january, 2009 and now, when there was an increase in spending, we just can't talk about that out of context, why was there an increase in spending. are we spending just to spend, or was this the government's response, our response, whether you voted for it or not, to a very serious problem in the united states of america, people out of work, health care costs going through the roof. so how