mr. paxton that i didn't want my report to end up on the second shelf of a professor of journalism study, the only comment is it's hired for the second shelf. so even the bottom shelf is in his view obviously a possibility. >> yeah. look, i think there's a chance to get this in a better place, actually. and there will be many that will disagree with this. but i think there are a lot of people in journalism and in the media who if the frame work in which they are operating is different it would also give them the freedom to be -- to do their job properly without believing that in some competitive rush to the bottom. i think part of all this is to do not with particular individuals or particular newspapers or bits of the media, but it is to do with the way the world has changed. and i think this has been growing and building up for a long period of time. and now i think it is a sensible moment in which we'll say, well, how do we protect our democratic freedoms but make sure that they are working within the system that is mature enough, also to be fair to people? >> well, i agree. the reacti