mr. pearson. we're going to go to our co-chair, mr. tebow. he'll start the questions. >> first of all, miss brian and project for oversight, thank you. i note in your statement that you said you had approaching or over 20 individuals that had 20 unique, separate individuals from the company armor group that had contacted p.o.g.o. >> that's true. and that does not include the individuals referenced earlier who have filed litigation. they're not -- >> so it's 20 for p.o.g.o. and multiple for litigation. the reason that's important is so often in whistleblower cases there will be one or two individuals that bring the whistle and allege wrongdoing. and they're kind of history system, sometimes they're summarily dismissed as disgruntled employees or about ready to be fired employees. and in this case it's not everyone, but have you experienced that kind of referral in your past? >> that's a great question. i've been doing this for 20 years. and there has not been a circumstance that i can point to where such enormous percentage of individuals have