mr. peck? >> yes, sir. the record is a public benefit conveyance is that we have done, which accounts or something like 13, 15% of the disposals we are done in the last number of years, fewer than something like 5% of those have actually gone to the homeless. so, it's not a huge number. we should put that back in our mind. second, the administration's proposal suggests in the course of come up with a lesser properties to be disposed of, the board would consider those properties that are likely to be useful to the homeless. i suspect it would be done in consultation with homeless groups. i think we have already, we have at least begun thinking about how we balance those issues you're talking about. >> mr. sullivan, any thoughts? >> mr. chairman, i believe in the va, our moral imperative is to ensure that no matter what real property action we take, that has a positive direct benefit on veterans and their families. number one. number two, that we fulfill our mission in terms of medical, cemetery