mr. perdue. mr. sanders. ms. murray. mr. wyden. ms. stabenow. mr. whitehouse. mr. warner. mr. merck lee. -- merkley. ms. baldwin. mr. kaine. mr. king. mr. chairman. the yeas are 10 the nays are 12. mr. enzi: the amendment fails. the next amendment, senator crapo's amendment. mr. crapo: i yield to senator warner on this. mr. warner: we should not be using the fees which should be going to support our housing industry as a piggy bank for other programs. it's rare to see we've got bankers, civil rights groups, all aligned. s that fiscally responsible amendment and i urge passage. mr. enzi: any objection to a voice vote? seeing none. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. carried. next one is the murray amendment. ms. murray: this is the amendment that takes the deficit neutral reserve fund provided in section 307 and expands it to allow us to use it for drastically needed issues for our veterans and service members including providing additional job training programs, specialty services importantly caregiver support that i think we all know many of our veterans, aging veteran

perdue: thank you, mr. chairman. this creates a spending neutral reserve fund aimed at subjecting it to the regular appropriation process. the last thing we need right now is a rogue regulator out there without any oversight of congress. thank you. chairman enzi: opposition? >> mr. chairman, the cfa be is funded like all other bank regulators to insulate it from the type of influence that would damage its regulatory role. it is overseen in numerous ways, including an independent audit monitoring by the inspector general, mandatory reporting to congress. we will make testimony before the banking committee and the oversight council to overturn cfpb regulations. we need to protect this group that does such a fabulous job of protecting consumers. chairman enzi: i urge my colleagues to vote yes. clerk: mr. grassley. >> aye. >> mr. sessions. mr. crapo. mr. graham. mr. portman. ms. ayotte. mr. wicker. mr. corker. mr. perdue. mr. sanders. >> no. >> ms. murray. mr. wyden. ms. stabenow. mr. white house. esther warner. mr. merk

mr. perdue: no. mr. sanders: yes. ms. murray: aye. mr. wyden: aye. ms. stabenow: aye. mr. whitehouse: aye. mr. warner: aye. mr. merkley: -- ms. baldwin: aye. mr. kaine: aye. mr. king: aye. mr. enzi: no. the clerk: the ayes are 10, the nays are 12. mr. enzi: the next is the stabenow amendment on oil spills. ms. stabenow: this is really a taxpayer amendment to say, if you have an oil spill, some tar sands, that the oil companies should be paying for that. the cleanup. the oil spill liability trust fund should have those types of spills covered by companies paying into it. we permanently extend the tax and eliminate tax benefits that apply when there's a settlement or a judgment because of oil spills and there's punitive damages. if somebody is found to be reckless, the taxpayer should not pick up the tab. i would ask for a yes vote. mr. enzi: i would ask for a no vote. this is overly prescriptive and it's an issue that needs to be deliberated at length in the finance committee and i know that senator wyden has been here to hear the discussion on it and so i'm sure that it wi

mr. perdue, mr. sanders no. ms. murray, no. mr. wyden. ms. stabenow, mr. whitehouse. mr. kane, mr. king. mr. chairman. senator enzi: yes. the clerk: the yeas are 12 and the nays are 10. senator enzi: the amendment has failed. the next one -- the amendment is passed. the amendment is passed. sorry. next one is the kaine amendment. senator: this is an amendment to promote c.t.e. education co-sponsored by senators baldwin and portman. senator enzi: any opposition, seeing none. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. . it is passed. next the ayotte amendment and there is a democrat side-by-side on this one. has the side-by-side been distributed? senator: can i move my vote after. we are awaiting a ruling by the parliamentarian. can i move my vote until the end? senator enzi: there is a side-by-side which has been handed out already. two minutes of debate each side? senator: my amendment creates a neutral deficit reserve fund to america's treasures and grow our rural economies in a balanced way. the side-by-side ties the well-being of rural economist and our spectacular treasures we

mr. chairman. >> senator perdue. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to echo the frustration you are hearing this morning. because of the intransigence of this administration, it seems to me that all of a sudden we are in an era where our allies don't trust us and our enemies don't fear us. as was mentioned earlier, ukraine gave up over 1,000 nuclear weapons on the assurance that their national security would be protect. nato and the united states was behind that. last september, the president promised to help ukraine buildup an effective security of force to defend themselves from aggression. yet here we are talking about more delays to that support. curt volcker, former u.s. ambassador to nato, has written that this new cease fire amounts to and i quote, an institutionalization of a frozen conflict inside ukraine. alongside what happened in georgia and moldova. this is exactly what the kremlin wants. end quote. i have a couple of questions. do you think putin's objective is to create a frozen conflict like the ones in georgia? if so, what woul

mr. chairman i appreciate the courtesy. >> thank you, chairman hatch and wish you the best of luck as you reform our tax code. >> it's going to take a lot of luck. >> senator perdue>> thank you, mr. chairman. i would like to thank you and the ranking member for raging this meeting. thank you, panelist, for being here. -- arranging this meeting. >> as one who moved from nashville to atlanta i can tell you that there's a lot of music activity in atlanta but i think everyone agrees the music market place is really changed and undergone radical change in the last few decades since bmi consent decrees made in 1994 a year in which by the way the billboard top 100 single had singles by bryan adams and boyz ii men. only my two kids know who they are. i would like to start with a threshold question today, a policy question about both consent decrees. and 79 the department justice revise its consent decree policy and mandated that except such antics were to circumstances all the doj consent decrees would contain a sunset provision. the sunset provisions would terminate the decree within 10 years. this was in response to congressional action to strengthen the penalties for

mr. chairman. >> yes, senator perdue, please. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i just want to echo the frustration that you're hearing this morning. because of the intransient of the administration, it seems to me that we're in an area that the allies don't trust us and enemies don't fear us. ukraine unilaterally gave up a thousand nuclear weapons on the assurance that their national security would be protected, nato and the u.s. was behind that. last suspect with ppt poroshenko by his side, president obama promised to build up ukraine to defend themselves from aggression. here we are today talking about more delays in terms of getting that support. kirk vol kerr, a former u.s. ambassador to nato has written that this new cease-fire amount to an institutionalization of a frozen conflict inside ukraine. this is exactly what the kremlin wants. admiral, i've got a couple of questions. do you think putin's objective is to create a frozen content and if so, what would be our response to that? >> senator, i think his objective is to keep ukraine destabilized. so it do

thank you very much. >> thank you, senator perdue. mr. secretary thank you for being here and thank you for you service over 30 years. it puts you in a unique perspective to talk to us today. i want to come back to your comments in your opening. i agree with you so much. i just believe we are at a moment of challenge. i mean i see this as a very dangerous world. i respect so much what you're doing in this position to try to deal with that. you also mentioned that we need to lead and i couldn't agree with that more. but i see two things you've also mentioned as well that really create challenges and i sense the frustration in your testimony today relating to one of these. first of all the national security crisis relative to the threats not just abroad but even here at home, relative to the threats abroad between a nuclear iran, an isil that is really running rampant among the middle east and of course what's going on in the ukraine and russia. but you mention also our fiscal irresponsibility and the questions that raises around the world

perdue: thank you for your testimony. thank you, mr. chairman. sen. franken: it is up to me to decide whether i'm ready or not? i'm not ready. i'm doing this out of respect for senator sessions and i'm completely ready. this is my great respect for him. sen. sessions: senator franken is always ready and always good at timing. you can be sure of that. well, miss yates, you are going into a different world in the united states attorney offices. i have observed both over the years and you are going to need all those values that you have learned going before federal judges every day, knowing that you prosecute one person one day and another one the next and it is absolutely essential that in both cases the law was applied fairly. i feel that every united states attorney that has any good character understands the pressure and the burdens to do that. director freeh, the former fbi director, was so calm entry of you -- complementary of you. he thought that you were exceptional. you background is good for this job. the atlanta office has always been a good o

. >> senator perdue thank you for the question. as mr. harrison said these are very unusual decrees. the department of justice entered into these decrees not as it usually does, to prevent and deter anti-competitive conduct. they actually entered into these decrees to enable anti- anti-competitive conduct in the construct that it could be regulated. that makes them very unique and that makes them necessary. if we are going to continue in the world and have ascap bmi csac and the large publishers that represented they can operate and collect the way they do there has to be a construct or they will engage in anti-competitive activity. >> in a perfect world i think consent decrees could go way. what we don't want to see happen is we don't want to destabilize our collective agencies because it's just too important. we would hope they find ways to modify it to give us some relief. it's just crucial to what we do now and a relationship with the pros by and large is good. my wife of 23 years as i was running these technicalities by her looking f

senator perdue: you mentioned last week, i think, mr. chairman that you were concerned about what happens afterwards. with regard to sectarian violence and so forth. if we are victorious against isil in iraq, it looks like iran is also victorious. because of their efforts behind the shia militia. can you speak to that in terms of the that definition in victory? and what can we do from a military standpoint once we declare victory over isil in iraq and syria? general dempsey: there is a lot in that question. iran is going to be influential in iraq and has been. i am concerned about they way they wield that influence. they can do that too promote a better iraq, economically for example. there are ways they could wield that influence to create a state where the sunni and kurds are no longer welcome. it is my concern about the latter that we are watching carefully. as this tikrit event unfolds. as far as declaring victory against isil, that is not for us to declare. as i said, very much we can enable it and supported coalition and hold a coa

i am very proud to second her nomination and refer to david perdue of the committee for his remarks. >> thank you senator, and thank you, mr. chairman. it's my district honor this morning, mr. chairman, to join the senator and congressman lewis to welcome sally yates and her family to the judiciary committee this morning. i want to echo their words and my colleagues this morning regarding ms. yates' qualifications and her distinguished career in federal service. for years she has prosecuted the most violent criminal organizations in georgia m.s.-13 and other notorious gangs, drug cartels human smuggling, sex traffickers. the department and the people in georgia are fortunate to have benefited from ms. yates's work in the service of justice for so many years. so today i join my colleagues in welcoming her to the judiciary committee and in congratulating her on the honor of this nomination. it's my privilege this morning, mr. chairman, that as a yellowjacket to welcome this bulldog to this committee. thank you. >> thank you both, senators, and you're free to go if you want to go. otherwise we'd be glad to have you listen to