mr. perkins, to wrap here, i'll let you have the last word, mr. frank. to you, mr. n you were in the military do you remember serving with anybody that you knew was a homosexual? >> no, i did not. >> would that have had an impact on how you performed? >> certainly it would if you were a review the, and we've seen this when we began to mix the sexes in the military and we've had cases of sexual harassment where men have had positions of authority over women in training. that situation has been abused, and if you have this in basic training, it can be a very volatile situation, so i think these are some things that, again, i don't think people understand the dynamics of the military and the conditions in which these men and women live, and their concerns should be heard in this process, and, unfortunately, those who are in the chain of command today, taking their orders from the president, do not feel free to express their opinions. you've had over 1,000 staff officers, general officers who have spoken out against this policy who are retired and can speak without fire