mr. perlmutter: will the gentlewoman yield? ms. foxx: yes. mr. perlmutter: yielding after the hurricane hits isn't fast enough. this is about knowing these things are coming and dealing with them in advance. and with that i yield back to my friend. ms. foxx: well, i thank my colleague, and what i don't understand, if this is what the democrats do, why don't we have an emergency reserve fund? again, we know that we advise families to prepare for emergencies. that's what we should do in the government. we should go through regular order, we should have debate, we should have some idea of where money is going to need to be spent in advance in terms of how we respond at the federal level. this is more government knowing the answer to everything and government control from the federal level. that's exactly what this is. . is it going to create jobs? yes, it's going to create some summer jobs for young people, but it's not going affect that job picture that my colleague talked about. neither did the stimulus. the stimulus was passed. we were told by the

mr. perlmutter we don't do that in the rules committee. mr. dreier has the floor. >> thank you very much madame chair. let me simply say, and i'm responding to mr. hastings and mr. mcgovern, both of whom have raised this serious charge that somehow if members don't come before this committee that they don't care about their amendment, and maybe it is my implication of that mr. hastings has said that he did not mean to directly say that. but the point is we would have complied, we would have complied with the direction for a new america item that said bills shall be reported by 10 a.m. for a meeting open rule in order. now the thing that is disturbing to everyone here is that as we look down to mr. polis isn't here this moment he stepped out, these are members of this committee who have never once from this committee had an open rule reported out. never before in the history of the public have we gone through a congress where there has been not one single open rule, and every day that goes by, madam chair, i should say that we have set this rec

mr. perlmutter. >> thank you madam chair. i wanted thank everybody on the panel today. i know you have put in a lot of hours equally to the number on the committee but i appreciate the number of hours you have put into get the piece of legislation. we talk a lot about the process and have we done enough, but i know much of the worst has happened in your committees and our long day is nothing compared to the long days and long nights you have put in getting this legislation to this point, so i appreciate you for putting in one more long day to get us through to what i hope tomorrow will be the day we actually vote on this legislation. i am also grateful to the words of all of my colleagues here on the rules committee particularly those people who have been telling us their own personal stories. i just want to share a couple from my constituency talk a lot about the issues i think we are talking about in the very important reason we are here moving this bill to the floor in the way we can move it. some of you may remember last year, it was last year when they took up this

mr. perlmutter we don't do that in the rules committee. mr. dreier has the floor. >> thank you very much madame chair. let me simply say, and i'm responding to mr. hastings and mr. mcgovern, both of whom have raised this serious charge that somehow if members don't come before this committee that they don't care about their amendment, and maybe it is my implication of that mr. hastings has said that he did not mean to directly say that. but the point is we would have complied, we would have complied with the direction for a new america item that said bills shall be reported by 10 a.m. for a meeting open rule in order. now the thing that is disturbing to everyone here is that as we look down to mr. polis isn't here this moment he stepped out, these are members of this committee who have never once from this committee had an open rule reported out. never before in the history of the public have we gone through a congress where there has been not one single open rule, and every day that goes by, madam chair, i should say that we have set this rec

mr. perlmutter: i will. mr. lamborn: my good friend has raised a point. i don't know if he was able to be here at the beginning of the resolution. we had a wonderful discussion about the tremendous valor shown in iwo jima but this is a discussion also -- mr. lamborn: reclaiming my time from my friend. reclaiming my time from my friend. this hour should be dedicated to the veterans. that's what i say. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from new york. mr. owens: madam speaker, at this time i have no further requests for time and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the question is will the house suspend the rules and agree to house resolution 1099 as amended. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, 2/3 of those voting having responded in the affirmative, the rules are suspended, the resolution is agreed to and the gentleman has asked for the yeas and nays? the yeas and nays are requested. all those in favor of taking this vote by the yea

mr. perlmutter, whether one or on the house side another, what i'm saying is 3 million will take your figure. 3 million people are going to lose their job to take care of 27 million people who then will be covered. and i think that is a horrible way to look at how you balance out this big effort and what we are trying to do. i was led to believe -- i appreciate -- >> 10 million uninsured at the end of the decade under your proposal. >> and i appreciate that help, mr. miller but the bottom line is we are talking about your to bills. and george to bills we've been selling out there we are going to take care of everybody. but what we are doing this for is about 27 million people, and three more are going to have to lose their job and are going to put this huge system on top of everybody. >> would the gentleman yield? >> i would yield to the gentleman mr. pallone. >> i know you've got these figures in your mind about -- >> they are right here. >> i understand what i would point out, when you are going to cover all these people and they are going to have to -- they are going to primary care and a

mr. perlmutter, please. from colorado, you are recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and i apologize. i have been bouncing back and forth among the number of committees. my question is i do this thing called a government at the grocery every other saturday we said at a congressional office in a different course restore in my district. a week ago saturday a woman came up and said she had to credit cards in the course of the last six months, eight months, i don't know if any of you have experienced but many americans have experienced the credit card rates going up even though they've been paying on time and all that sort of stuff so they close the credit cards. then they find their credit score has dropped because they pose the credit cards because they didn't want to pay higher rates. they were done. somebody explained to me how that happens. islamic when you say they closed it to mean the consumer? >> the consumer closed their credit cards because their rates had been jacked up. >> so the way that can happen is in the eckert is our model at least what the fico scores we don't have man

mr. perlmutter: thank you very much for that news and for the -- mr. perriello: thank you very much for that news and for the news from the house of lord -- i mean senate, that has just come our way. it's very exciting. we as a caucus have been fighting so hard to shift the focus from speculation on wall street to job creation on main street. we understand that two out of every three new jobs in this country are coming from small business. now they may not make the headlines, it may mean you have lots and lots of small businesses, but that's the engine of our growth. one thing we still do better than any other country in the world is innovate. we are better entrepreneurs, we're really good at this. and it's our small businesses where we see that innovation taking place. and we need to make sure that we're giving the kind of support that small businesses need whether that's through direct lending, whether that's through suspension of capital gains tax for small business to bring non-traditional lenders in, whether that's providing the infrastructure in

mr. perlmutter a member of the rules committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. . you, mr. speaker. thank you, madam chair. this marks a historic time for our country. the current system is broken and there's still a lot of work to be done and i am committed to continuing this work. but no is not an option. just say no, just vote no. that you hear from the other side, the status quo is not an option. today we can improve our health care system by extending coverage to people with pre-existing conditions like my daughter and 16,800 of my constituents in the 7th congressional district in colorado. i have talked with my constituents in the 7th congressional district meetings and the government at the grocery meetings i have, telephone town halls, and they know the system is broken and something has to be done. for me this is personal. i have a daughter with epilepsy. she didn't ask to get it. just part of her chemistry. i dare say everybody in this room has somebody in their family, a close friend,