mr. perriello: thank you. biffer go to the gentleman from ohio i think it is important to note how serious fiscal responsibility is and how serious it is for those of us frankly who are some of the younger members of this body, who understand that this threat of fiscal irresponsibility is not coming due for our children and our grandchildren, it's not that far off. it's going to be within our lifetime that we see this and in order to fix a problem, sometimes you have to understand the root cause of that problem. with that i yield to the gentleman from ohio. mr. driehaus: i want to thank the gentleman from virginia. madam speaker, you know, i think it's important to look back and to determine where this deficit started. and when you look back, it's back in the clinton administration. when we began to turn around the budget here in the united states, when we began to go from deficits to surpluses and we were actually paying down on the debt. at the beginning of the bush administration they had had a choice. they