mrs. perrys at it again today speaking at a diner in south carolina she told an unemployed man she shared his pain. mrs. perry said her son was also out of work and added "my son lost his job because of this administration." well, here's tonight's truth. wrong again, mrs. perry. and again not even close. griffin perry did have to give us his job at deutch bank because he's been raising money for his father's campaign and the securities and exchange commission has rules governing political activities. in other words to keep people who may want to get investments in a state pension program like the one in texas from trying to buy political sway through campaign contributions. those rules were tightened effective last year because of shenanigans too many to mention related to the 2008 mortgage mess and broader financial meltdown. griffin perry, the son in question, told abc news recently, he decided to put his career on hold to help his dad. he said it was his choice. so for mrs. perry to say "my s

prayer breakfast in south carolina where 60% of republican voters say they are christian, today mrs. perry wiped tears recalling her grandfather who had been a deakin and then used biblical references to declare god revealed to her that her husband of 29 years should run for president. >> he felt like he needed to see the burning bush. i said, look, let me tell you something. you may not see that burning bush, but there are people seeing that burning bush for you. >> reporter: governor perry's campaign soared at first but faded after poor debate performances. >> i think the debates have been unfair. i think he's been the recipient of arrows. >> reporter: mrs. perry's tone took on a sharp edge later today at more secular campaign events, mocking gop candidate herman cain's 999 tax plan. >> when i hear 999, i want to call 911. >> reporter: and the president. >> someone said it may take 40 years to recover from president obama. i'm like you. if he's re-elected i don't know that 40 years is going to be enough. >> reporter: although anita perry has been first lady longer than anyone in texas hi

mrs. perry talking about the rigors of campaigning and what she feels is driving the criticism of her husband. >> this has been a rough month. i don't need to tell you we've been brutalized and beaten up and chewed up in the press. we've been brutalized by our opponents and our party so much of that i think they look at him because of his faith. he's the only true conservative. i truly feel like we are here for that purpose. >> mrs. perry saying god called governor perry to this race saying the husband was happy being governor but she encouraged him to run because she felt washington was lacking leadership. one of perry's rivals former godfather ceo continues his surge in the polls his signature economic plan is drawing increased scrutiny. the 999 proposal would reform the current tax code cutting it down to a 9% personal income tax, 9% corporate tax and 9% national sales tax. the plan is getting mixed reviews with "the washington post" offering this critique -- herman cain will sit down with da

mrs. perry's tone took on a sharp edge at more secular campaign events. mocking gop candidate herman cain's 999 tax plan. >> when i hear 999, i want to call 911. >> reporter: and the president. >> someone said it may take 40 years to recover from president obama. i'm like you, if we -- if he's re-elected i don't know that 40 years is going to be enough. >> reporter: although anita perry has been first lady longer than anyone in texas history that public life has apparently not made the scrutiny and strain any easier, seeing her husband run for president. kelly o'donnell, nbc news, washington. >>> here's your first look at other news going on around america today. a violent attack inside a chicago high school was captured on criminal phone. the horrific footage shows one teen struggling to defend herself against two sisters inside a biology class. a teacher tried to intervene but was unable to stop the fight. the 14-year-old victim suffered a concussion and other injuries. her 17 and 18-year-old attackers were suspended from school and arrested. >>> a base

mr. perry's assessment as it relates to foreign affairs. we have seen major high dollar targets if you will succumb to the work of our national security community and the united states military and president barack obama. do we have the confidence that governor perry would ascend to the leadership if you do not present yourself in a serious manner and apt to make jokes and if you don't get a profound station and i'm not suggesting you stand before the world on a podium, but if you don't reject the inhead rock that we can understand that you reject it and were appalled and distance yourself from it or you give a profound statement about the lack of credibility of a confederate issued license plate regardless of the history preservation, that can be done in museums and private homes, if you don't distance yourself in the commander confederate organization that said people need to move on. then you are creating an atmosphere when you move into the general election if you are elected by the primary voters that you are not a serious candidate re

yes, mr. perryery thought of having to walk on stage amongst friends and talk about his policies. seriously. and so, his campaign team has let it be known that mr. perry is not going to appear in every debate from now on. he just can't take it anymore. but before you jump in and berate him for being a scaredy-cat, a weak heart, and a wuss, just ask yourself how you'd feel if you'd performed like this. >> against the second amendment, before he was for -- galileo got outvoted for a spell. was it before he was before? if you're saying i can be bought for $5,000, i'm offended. before he was against versus -- roe versus wade. >> the last time i saw anyone as punch-drunk as perry on stage was in may, 1987, when pinklin thomas challenged mike tyson for the heavyweight champion of the world and landed flat on his back. i think we all understand why rick perry is now running scared. thank you very much for watching. dylan is back, he's here, and he's ready to take us forward. dylan, it's yours. >> i was jus

mrs. perry suggested his slip in the polls is because of brutal attacks from other republicans that she suggests somehow resent his faith. of those republican critics, mrs. perry said, quote, they may feel like god called them, too. but i truly feel like we are here for that purpose. >>> rising cain, the leap of herman cain to the top of the pack of the presidential race. new poll numbers out tonight, 27% of republican voter back cain. former massachusetts governor mitt romney is the choice of 23%. governor perry follows at 16%. congressman ron paul cracks double-digit support. some are quick to suggest cain is the latest beneficiary of an anyone but romney dynamic among the most conservative republicans. the never shy mr. cain says he'll prove them wrong. >> will not be the flavor of the week. the answer is an emphatic no, because haggen-dasz black walnut tastes good all the time. >> why the soaring poll numbers? listen to this from an interview today with my colleague erin burnett. >> it demon

anybody of faith is going to get raked over by the secular press and mrs. perry and governor perry should have been ready for that. >> the big leagues. >> i do believe there is an antichristian bias in the mainstream media in it country. i absolutely believe that. i'm not wrong on this. you know i say i could be wrong, i'm not wrong. if you are christian and you tell voters that your faith influences your decision-making, the secular press is going to try to cut your heart out. >> but the secular press is going to detroy any republican nominee or try to. >> bill: but it gets elevated for people like sarah palin. >> of course, it does. >> bill: and rick perry and michele bachmann. >> there thy ha has to be a std of excellence you need to meet. of course, they will come after him. he is a texan and evangelical. >> bill: the christianity thing makes them see, the new york times people, makes them crazy. >> they hate him but a lot of people love him for it. >> bill: what hurts him far more was his stance on illegal immigration. that illegal immigration was really wha

. >> 60% of republican voters say they are christian and today mrs. perry wiped tears recalling her grandfather who had been a deacon and used biblical references to declare that god revealed to her that her husband should run for president. >> he felt like he needed to see the burning bush. i said look, let me tell you something, you may not have seen that burning bush but there are people who have seen it for you. >>> i think the debates have been unfair. i think he has been the recipient of arrows. >> mrs. perry's tone took on a sharp edge later today at more secular campaign events. >> when i hear 9-9-9, i want to call 911. >> someone said it may take 40 years to recover from president obama. if he is re-elected, i don't know that 40 years will be enough. >> so hearing anita perry unfiltered gave us a win do into what he was thinking. rick perry was asked about her comments and he said it is often the family members who feel a lot of this more personally than the candidates do. she said she understood this this would be tough and more intense than she e

romney and mr. perryhoever it may be, there will be a signifigant part of their operation dedicated to getting the woman vote. nobody gets elected without the woman vote in america. if this is so important, why do we allow this to happen to women and hetheir babies? >> it is criminal we allow women and children to go without enough to eat. every county in the u.s. is impacted. we know women always go without eating before they allow their children to go without eating. i remember a story -- i was in vegas, which was impacted by the recession. i was in the principal's office. the school had children who qualified for free lunch at 92%. max had his head down, typical of kids who live in poverty. the principal asked him -- he had a box. she walked out and came back later and said, max brought his toys to school so he can sell his toys because his mother lost her job. he recognized that she wasn't eating. so my question to people in our country is, "should 8 year olds worry about selling their toys so their f

i would like to introduce to you mr. perry surely, the juror who chaired the committee. supervisor campos: thank you, and welcome to the oversight committee. >> good morning, supervisor. we had taken up this report as a continuation of previous work done by the grand jury. it is a project that is granted take a year. it will be 2017 before the navy has transferred all the land over to the redevelopment agency and its of corn to go back to see what has happened since. there is many different aspects to this. the environmental cleanup -- most of that work is left up to the navy, and we realize there is very little the city can legally do to monitor that. however, we want to remind the board of supervisors that there is the conveyance agreement between the san francisco redevelopment agency and the navy that was created in signing of 2004, and it stipulates that the federal government's will work cooperatively with the redevelopment agency to find out what is the best way to clean up. one of the major decisions to come is with personaparcel 2. the land at bayview was cut up

also mr. perry has not made himself available to forums like "the factor," so it's hard for americans to get to know him. i talked with the governor on the phone. he was very polite. said he would come on "the factor." a good time might be soon, governor. on the democratic side, things keep getting worse because the economy keeps getting worse. hard to see how president obama can make a comeback unless jobs are magically created and the stock market goes up 1,000 points. however, mr. obama remains steadfast in his belief that the federal government can control the economy and has an obligation to spend a massive amount of money speculating on things like green energy. >> if we want to compete with other countries that are heavily subsidizing the industries of the future, we've got to make sure our guys here in the united states of america at least have a shot. there are going to be some failures -- >> you were getting warnings not to back that company up. >> well, hindsight is always 20/20. it went

mr. perry numbers have come down subject standingly. mr.ated seriously by the news media. he may do better or worse. he's pretty much been ignored by the mainstream media. megyn: we'll have a debate on why that is. it seems that rick perry has lost the supporters to the same extent herman cain has gained them. are the folk jumping on the cain train former perry supporters. >> many people jumping on the cain train support the tea party movement and many of those same people were supporting mr. perry before his numbers began to dip. we can't say john here and sally here have changed. but there has been some migration among tea party types from mr. perry to mr. cain. megyn: what do you think of him around this 20 mark. is that a good thing for him. slow and steady wins the race or is it a bad thing he can't seem to get above that? >> you can argue it round, you can argue it square. it's always better to be ahead than behind. the question is why has he not grown as other candidates have gown and down. i would suggest the next month or two is mr

where are you, mr. perry? i'm waiting. ing me now to help answer that question who did show up is matt glaser, executive director of progress texas, a group that has followed perry's past and jonathan capehart, editorial writer for the "washington post" and msnbc contributor. gentlemen, thank you for your time tonight. >> hi, rev. great being here. >> let me start with you, jonathan. three days, no perry. we hear some spinning, if you want to call it that from some of his campaign aides. he didn't come forth. he didn't explain anything. he hasn't really said anything about this. does that speak volumes? >> well, it speaks a little bit, but to be fair to the governor, he did send a statement to the "washington post" saying that the word was -- i believe he said either offensive or insensitive. i think it was offensive. he talked about how, you know, efforts were made to, you know, paint over the word which was painted over a rock. i think the bigger issue though is it's one thing to talk about this through a statement and th

well, here was mr. perryl election campaign in 2006. >> education is our future and my highest priority. >> highest priority. in fact, since rick perry was elected governor of texas, the state has slumped to the bottom of the class, falling from 46th to 50th in the number of children who graduate from high school. indeed, in 2009 almost 50% did not have a high school diploma by the age of 18. so, whatever you think of his lack of debating skills or the trouble he has articulating his own political philosophy, it's the substance of rick perry's tenure that raises the most serious concerns, particularly as it relates to children. but maybe it also explains why he thinks the american revolution took place in the 16th century. thank you very much for watching. dylan ratigan is ready to take us forward and is in washington this afternoon. dylan? >> good afternoon to you, martin. at least the wires are working so can i hear your voice and respond in a civilized fashion. >> that's a great relief. thank you, i apolog

yeah. >> nobody has denied that the rock was there that named it and no one has said affirmatively mr. perry never saw it and what he said about it. there is all sort of decoy around the edges. >> yeah. >> i just knew rick perry, you know, the swinging cowboy who shoots at everything, was coming out guns blazing today. nothing. >> yeah. i think it's really called -- there's been a flair tiff thus far about is rick perry ready for primetime and this i think really furthers that line of questioning. we are talking about the office of the president of the united states here. there are 40 million african-americans in this country. they make up 13% of the population. it seems like perry doesn't have a sense or a grasp of what that word means. and i think at this time almost more so than any time in history, we really need not only a leader but someone who can unite the country and he just seems to be completely absent from the conversation. >> now, mia, herman cain on abc yesterday, he had this response himself. >> it's very insensitive and since governor perry has been going there for years to h

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mr. perry, mr. schweitzer. good morning. welcome to government audit and oversight. again, thank you for your service. >> thank you. good morning again. thank you for the opportunity to be able to talk to you about our report. my name is bob kerrey, the chair of the committee. daniel was a member of the committee, and he will be presenting as well. i am going to be making some general comments, and his will be more specific. the purpose of the civil grand jury is to represent the interests of san francisco citizens to ensure their tax dollars are being used to their maximum benefit. in issuing its report, the jury enters factual accuracy of the investigation, factual support for its findings, and a logical connection between its findings and recommendations. although we talked to a broad range of people, including current and former mta's employees, citizen groups, elected officials, industry experts, it is important for me to say that all factual information that was in the report were based almost solely on interviews with mta officials and with documents they prov

mr. perry unveiling a proposal for creating a $1.2 -- for creating 1.2 million jobs focusing on american energy. >> my plan is based on this simple premise: make what americans buy, buy what americans make, and sell it to the world. we're standing on top of the next american economic boom, and it's the energy underneath this country. megyn: steve brown live in pennsylvania where mr. perry laid out his plan. steve? >> reporter: hey there, megyn. yes, and the energy portion of perry's economic plan was the only portion released today. there will be more coming up down the road, says the texas governor. but to put it simply, governor perry believes that energy, more specifically energy creation and production, equals jobs. today's event was at a steel plant, as you mentioned, a u.s. steel event where perry unveiled his energy plan which is one pillar, again, of his overall economic policy. the event was held in this steel mill because manufacturers use lots of energy in boosting domestic energy pr

. >> i think what will cain is saying, what mr. perrys going to say next week, look, we're cutting out hundreds of billions of dollars every year in tax compliance costs and we're cutting out perhaps billions of hours people figuring out tax returns. i think you would get some economic benefits out of the cain plan. you worry about does it create the architecture to create taxes later, but-- >> what do you mean by that? >> well, as michele bachmann was playing, what if congress runs the sales tax from 9 to 20 and end up getting high income tax which we have now and high sales tax nationally that's a problem. initially, if you actually enacted it just like what i expect to be the perry plan, you have a lower rate, you have some simplicity versus the current system, you get more economic growth. >> why go to that problem when you go just go to the flat tax. >> without introducintroducing. take the income, subtract out investments and pay tax on what's left. it's so much cleaner, simpler, not, you know, aen doesn't run the risk that james i

the "wall street journal" features an op-ed from mr. perry previewing his plan that he calls cut, balance and grow. some of the highlights include a choice between your current tax rate or a flat tax rate of 20% a reduction in the corporate rate to 20%, and opt out of social security for younger workers and a move to cap spending to 18% of the country's gdp. governor perry emphasizes the plan would create a better environment for creating american jobs. in the op-ed he writes in part by eliminating the dozens of carve-outs, we will renew incentives for entrepreneurial risk taking and investment that creates jobs, inspires americans to work hard and forms the foundation of a strong economy. jim harwood interviewed governor perry and we'll play that on "morning joe" at the top of the hour. >>> karl rove taking aim now at herman cain. rove breaking out his white board to highlight cain's recent campaign struggles. >> cain has had a number of misstatements. we had abortion. earlier this year he didn't understand what the right of return was, the

mr. cain up 12 points in less than a month. governor perry down 13 points. and mr. cain is a compelling political figure come as cross as friendly and talks about tax reform with his 999 campaign. governor perry another story. americans were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. and also, mr. perry not made himself to available in forums like the factor so it's hard for americans to get to know him. he talked -- i talked with him on on the phone and he said he would be on the factor. on democratic side, the economy keeps getting worse. hard to see how president obama can make a come back unless jobs are create skptd stock market goes up a thousand points, however, mr. obama remains steadfast in his belief the federal government can control the economy and has an obligation to spend a massive amount of money spending on things like green energy. >> if we want to compete with other countries we've got to make sure our guys have a shot. there are going to be failures and... solydra is an example. hind sight is 20-20. people felt like this was a good bet. >> ther

romney and mr. perry and anderson cooper had the job that you had of moderating, when do you jump in and how long would you let it go? would you have jumped in any sooner, did he do the right thing? >> there is no right or wrong thing. it is really tricky for a moderator because no matter what you do, you will be criticized. somebody would say you should have let them go at it. >> let them go ahead and suck each other, that is what they are going to do, and some say no, no, civilized zed discourse, and everybody everyone have doing some other things and you can't plan these an these things, you can -- you can go on your instincts and have that long to make a decision. cooper in his case had longed to the site, i am going to break in. or i'm not going to break in, somebody who has done this before, i have made the wrong decision many times for -- i got into something too quickly. or i waited too long. it goes to the territory. >> hindsight, 2020. you are very candid about the mistakes you made and i apprec

mr. perryit will cut taxes for all income groups, and it's simple. listen to this. >> best representation of my plan is this postcard. this is the size of what we're talking about right here. taxpayers will be able to fill this out and file their taxes on that. [cheers and applause] >> reporter: mr. perry's already going after his critics in advance of their expected criticism saying that those who would oppose his plan are against real, bold change and, essentially, standing up for the status quo. the texas governor says he can balance the budget by 2020, a ten of year budget cycle, that he can hold the government spending to 18% of gross domestic product which means he's going to have to find another trillion dollars in spending cuts. mr. perry also is going to go after entitlement reform boldly and has made it clear he suspect going to take any -- he isn't going to take any criticism from anybody. the problems, he says, are far too serious to, quote, nibble around the edges. jon: it would be

perry supporter robert jeffress called the religion a cult. one of the big stories, he's got the chair to prove it. seated tonight between mr. romney and mr. perry. mr. cain is learning with a brighter spotlight comes greater scrutiny. having to defend with criticism west who described cain's crack pipe and harry belafonte who called him a bad apple. here is mr. cain responding very much on the offensive. >> i do find it offensive. let me respond to professor west first. that's the difference between someone who spent their in academia and someone who spent their in the real world. i have been in the real world. he is in academia. he is on the symbolic stuff. as far as harry belafonte came in, i left the democrat plantation a long time ago. all they try to do when someone like me and i'm not the only black person out there that shares these conservative views, the only tactic they have to try to intimidate me and shut me up is to call me names and this sort of thing. it simply won't work. >> mr. cain proving he is still his abc of identity revealed in his book. american first, black second and conservative third. msnbc contributor and edito

one is the precipitous drop of mr. perryooks like he is saying i'm taking my ball and going home. and the fact that herman cain seems to have inherited the anti-romney vote. we see gingrich rising up a little bit. but not the -- he is only, what, he is -- >> bret: 12% in our poll. other polls he is third. you know, gingrich has seen a surge after the debates. where arguably he performed well. >> what is interesting about the primary and the reason so many republicans have been a little bit less enthusiastic than you might have thought about the field. and what herman cain brings to it so far, is the idea of being inspired and offering a moral underpinning for why you want to move the country in a particular direction. we have seen most candidates offer agenda. most of them offered a level of competence that shows okay, maybe you could be president. but it's very few have yet to show why. why do you want to take me here? herman cain has begun to show that. what he has to show next is he can be presidential. he reminds me of i

it seems mrs. perry believes that her husband has been singled out or scorn because of religious beliefs. do you buy that? >> i think it's, she's right it's been a tough month for him. as his wife, i mean, she's probably hurting for him. the truth, i think is that when you get into this race as michelle bachmann found and as last time around, mike huckabee found and sara palin found as a vice presidential nominee, the media and others are going to be hard on you, scrutinize your records look at you on the stage alongside other candidates. you're going to have to match a standard of excellence that makes people feel reassured about your abilities beyond governing your state and beyond record in the state that you're in. so i don't think it's anything to do with his faith and everything to do with a comfort level people want to have. i think by the polls we few there are a lot of people who wanted rick perry to soar from the beginning. and he has to take himself across the finish line. i think in the end a

mr. perryow has to deal with that joining us from washington fox news senior political analyst brit hume so the "the washington post" broke this story on sunday. it seems to me i read this story that the rock was painted over and maybe if you had a magnifying glass you could see this objectionable word on it. it kind of stretching, right? >> it doesn't seem to me to be as big a story as the "the washington post" played it. after all the properties you pointed out was leased. the perry family didn't own this land that was used as a place to hunt. and eventually, i guess the exact time of it was in some dispute. the offending word that was, i guess, part of the name of the property or name of the area was painted over. you can't see it anymore. the story was based on a lot of anonymous sources which always raises questions. i just think it's not helpful to perry for this reason, bill. every day you spend talking about something like this with regard to perry is a day that whatever else perry is s

mr. cain came in. and perry and romney have called me.isited me yet. >> and does that flatter you? does that make you feel as though you have some part to play in this republican nomination process? >> no, you know, i had four candidates come to visit me in 1996 before we knew how to spell immigration. that's 1996 they came to visit me. so maybe they like me. i don't know. they like my policy. >> one person who hasn't been to see you is mitt romney. what do you think of him employing a truckload of illegal immigrants, albeit thank you subcontractor, to mow his lawn? isn't he as an employer at the very heart of this problem? >> well, i tell you. i just locked up eight more smugglers two hours ago heading for other areas. by the way, one was heading toward my home state of massachusetts. so we lock them up as they're coming through or we raid work places and i'm doing my job regardless of what that congressman is accusing me of being under investigation. the president mentioned me personally two weeks ago. i think that's an honor that he br