mr. pezzola. it was said in pleadings by me, as his counsel on his behalf.t's any secret what he and it's pretty much universal, and it's rampant through the press releases and the tapes that have been played in the senate today and all the tapes that have been played of the event. he, along with other people who participated in that event, believe they were acting as patriots. they were responding -- he's former military. he's proud of his country. he considers himself a loyal american citizen, and the president of the united states said that the election was being stolen and it was time for citizens to stand up and take action and take control. and so he followed those instructions, believing he was acting as a patriot, which is consistent with pretty much what i have heard from everybody who was down there, either from them or from their counsel who represent them. it's not in dispute. and it was played out in the senate today in numerous press releases. >> well, it's very much in dispute, right? you have the whole senate flank of the senate, the republic