mr. pickens. i worked as a mechanic for over 30 years in a chemical plant.ed a lot of strict safety rules. also as a mechanic we did a lot of prevention maintenance work. my question is do you think that bp's preventative maintenance program failed? is it a big result of this disaster that we're going through now? >> no, i don't think it was a maintenance problem at all. >> larry: because? >> i think that -- i thing problem was, first, didn't run the centralizer. second, they got a bad cement job. and did not run the cement bond log. it had nothing to do with maintenance. >> larry: you think they did all the preventative maintenance they were supposed to do? >> yes. >> larry: and you would release -- you would stop the banning of the -- you would do the -- do away with the president's order on that? i just want to clear that up. >> do away with the president's order on what? >> larry: on the moratorium on -- >> yes. i would go back to drilling is what i would do. i capitwant to get on american dependen dependence. >> larry: thank you -- >> can you give me 15

mr. pickens is one again attempting to get subsidies -- and these are subsidies -- not tax provisions butrect subsidies -- for conversion of diesel powered trucks that move goods across the country very efficiently, and convert those to natural gas by saying that -- we nacelles off of foreign crude oil. unfortunately again this is one of the things that the american taxpayer -- and i believe he was asking for something like $65,000 per trucker as a subsidy so they can go out and get a new truck -- that would cost more than that, to use natural gas. this is, in our opinion, fraught with both technical and economic consequences. host: would that hurt the refinery industry? guest: well, we sell a lot of diesel to trucks. but the problem is, not to worry about it hurting the refining industry but what will it do to the american consumer? what is that going to do for the taxpayer? what is it going to do to the cost of goods and services? is it efficient, is an affordable and reliable? yes, natural gas is reliable. no question about that. but is its best intended use in the engine of a semi? it

mr. pickens is one again attempting to get subsidies -- and these are subsidies -- not tax provisions but direct subsidies -- for conversion of diesel powered trucks that move goods across the country very efficiently, and convert those to natural gas by saying that -- we nacelles off of foreign crude oil. unfortunately again this is one of the things that the american taxpayer -- and i believe he was asking for something like $65,000 per trucker as a subsidy so they can go out and get a new truck -- that would cost more than that, to use natural gas. this is, in our opinion, fraught with both technical and economic consequences. host: would that hurt the refinery industry? guest: well, we sell a lot of diesel to trucks. but the problem is, not to worry about it hurting the refining industry but what will it do to the american consumer? what is that going to do for the taxpayer? what is it going to do to the cost of goods and services? is it efficient, is an affordable and reliable? yes, natural gas is reliable. no question about that. but is its best intended use in the engine of a semi?