mr. pierre. but we all know mr. have something in his backhand and we need to wait until today once the supervisory statements are made available. >> so it's still as clear as mud, then? >> well, exactly. my impression is that mr. pierre will not give up that easily and whatever might happen later today or tomorrow morning, it could still put the porsche decision into waves. >> lower sa xw ony says that porsche will remain as an autonomous vw unit in audi. what do they know? >> well, that's exactly saying we, as vw, have still the intention to acquire porsche. what time porsche's decision of yesterday afternoon or late night says, we still have the intention of acquiring vw. so we are in the middle of no win. we don't have a clearer picture as of today. >> hans-peter, shifting gears a little bit since we are talking autos, can we talk about the situation with gm's discussions on opel? it appears now the chinese investment firm is out. they're still talking to rhj out of belgium and canada's magna. do you expect to se