mr. pilpel. we always appreciate your feedback. is there any other public comment on this item?e have a motion to accept the amendments that were stated? >> i totally agree, these amendments of the whole, correct? >> chair kim: yes,es, of the whole. madam clerk, did you want to >> supervisor elsbernd: to'nsvñdr8e november 15. >> thank you. supervisor elsbernd is right, continue to november 15. we would also ask that the motion be amended, that the effective date fornzñ?ñ? these d rules be january 8, 2013, and that would be onapñ?ñ? the cover motion. >> chair kim: thank5jñ?ñ? you. so we do have a motion to accept these amendments as a whole, and also to amend)çhmg2p the board - the amended board rules would 2013. so we do have that motion. opposition. then we have a motion to continue this item to$mñ?ñ? novr 15, rules committee. >> so moved. >> chair kim: we can do that again without opposition. thank you so much to the clerk's office. i know several different legislative aides from different offices were involvedgÑñ?ñ?ñ ine weekly meetings. so i wanted to thank everyone for all

mr. pilpel's changes are good, unless mr. st. croix, there is something that we need know? any other changes? to the draft minutes? did you guys catch those? is there a motion to adopt the minutes as amended? >> so moved. >> second. >> >> all in favor. aye. >> aye. >> that is a question, i was not present, should i abstain? >> pardon me? >> not an option, you have to vote. x i will vote in favor >> the next item on the agenda is the executive director's report. >> just one highlight this month. again, bringing up the report that was done by the board of supervisors budget analyst comparing the san francisco and los angeles commission procedures. in order to bring that to a commission as a discussable item, we decided not to just show you the report. but to gather some public comment on what the report actually means. so that we have some feedback to give you in advance of this. so we have scheduled two interested public meetings. interested persons meetings in december on the 4th and the 10th to do this. you are welcome to come as you are to all interested persons meeting.

mr. pilpel. we always appreciate your feedback. is there any other public comment on this item?