mr. pilpel's behavior. i'll be amending that complaint and i am hoping commissioner keane that you will have the wherewithal during the agenda setting topic tonight to recommend that a public hearing on mr. pilpel's sia violation be expedited and put on your next commission meeting. >> any other public comment? >> commissioners, directors of san francisco and [inaudible] open government and i would like to say will. >> back to my general comment and regarding the things with the new members. frankly i think asking a question what good is it going to do to do this is rather transparent, but what it's supposed to do is get people to follow the law. they all have a responsibility. they all know what the law s they have done it for a dozen years yet we repeatedly get in situations like this. he was denied due process because he was denied the records he needed to present his case at various points, whether it was at the sunshine ordinance task force, their subcommittees, the appeals board, the planning commissi

mr. pilpel's behavior. i'll be amending that complaint and i am hoping commissioner keane that you will have the wherewithal during the agenda setting topic tonight to recommend that a public hearing on mr. pilpel's sia violation be expedited and put on your next commission meeting. >> any other public comment? >> commissioners, directors of san francisco and [inaudible] open government and i would like to say will. >> back toy

mr. pilpel's violation of the statement of incompatible activities, that is applicable to task force members. during the commission commission meeting on november 25. >> >> commissioner keane thankfully raised a question regarding having a discussion about the ethics commission's executive director's power to dismiss complaints unless a commissioner pulls it off of the consent calendar. for both sea and sei complaints against mr. pilpel i strongly urge this commission to require that a hearing be held on each complaint and that both complaints be addressed by the full ethics commission as expeditiously as possible. state and local law of which pilpel must be surely aware provides that filers that are more than 30 days late filing are subject up to $500,000 per violation and willful failure maybe a misdemeanor offense and there is is no exemption to let him off the hook and minimum fine should be as listed and based on calendar days it should be 170 days for the 117 calendar days that passed since april 1. however given the severity of his violation of the public trust he should be fined the

mr. pilpel not to comment on the task force. when we gets to the word "we" in his testimony he's attempting to influence you as being a representative from the task force when they haven't authorized him to come and speak for "we." you've got to figure out how to cut him off on the mic. commissioner keane my esteem went up for you again. thank you for adding all three recommendations to your amended motion. i think the point of

mr. pilpel. >> david pilpel again speaking as an individual. just as clarification yes, there have been joint meetings between the commission and the task force in the past. there can be in the future and i believe one that one of the grand jury findings and recommendation i believe number 20, talked about the relationship between the task force and the commission so you might address it in part to the responses to the grand jury report if you intend to do something in the future you could indicate in your responses that the task force is certainly considering the responses to that grand jury report as well. thank you. >> thank you. now can i have a motion for adjournment. >> i move for adjournment. >> second. >> all in favor? opposed? stand adjourned. [gavel] (clapping.) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i think we have more companies anywhere in the united states it's at the amazing statement we're not trying to be flashy or shocking just trying to create something new and original were >> one of the things about the conduct our you enter and turn your your back and

mr. pilpel. >> david pilpel again speaking as an individual. just as clarification yes, there have been joint meetings between the commission and the task force in the past. there can be in the future and i believe one that one of the grand jury findings and recommendation i believe number 20, talked about the relationship between the task force and the commission so you might address it in part to the responses to the grand jury report if you intend to do something in the future you could indicate in your responses that the task force is certainly considering the responses to that grand jury report as well. thank you. >> thank you. now can i have a motion for adjournment. >> i move for adjournment. >> second. >> all in favor? opposed? stand adjourned. [gavel] leaders. >> hi everyone i'm patrick the director of earthquake safety forever for the stoifbl and we have the ryan white fair to teach people about the made sure soft story ordinance and connect them with the services they need you can save thousands of lives and if those buildings are ro

mr. pilpel voted against it, will have problems getting it back here. the bottom line is mr. herrera as i talked about this oofng evening hid funds he was receiving from friends of the library and gifts he knew he had to report and we had to take him to the f bbc in sacramento and find him in violation and he's a convicted perjurer and said he got nothing when he got $5,000 a year and he lied to your faces and you don't seem to be worried about that at all. he told you this isn't a first amendment issue and it's always been from the 150 word summaries they started six years ago to telling people they weren't allowed to talk about certain things at library commission meetings to our criticism of the financial relationship with the friends and with holding documents and using the public position as city librarian to violate the law and with holding documents for more than two years. hi t -- i had to go to the superintendent of records twice and found in violation of the task force for not doing their job and says if they don't comply it's supposed to be sent to the district att

mr. pilpel has raised some very important issues about who we find responsible in these kinds of cases as we've had discussion about this on several occasions, but in this case i have to say i do agree with mr. hertz and in the end we have no recourse other than to hold the director of any department ultimately responsible. i mean i think that is true that the buck stops there and to try and to decisive and unspool the thread of who rejected or didn't do a timely response i think can get a little too complicated. i think the simple thing is that a executive director of any department is responsibility, end of story, whether it's willful or non willful is the other matter that we can certainly discuss. >> the purpose of the public records statute is to get access to documents and guess the frustration i am feeling is even if we make this motion and we pass it, and we send a letter to the head of the planning department how does that get documents produced? i mean how do we -- >> can i respond? if you consult the ethics commission's guidelines in section 3c it discusses the options that the

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mr. sutton go on beyond his. i appreciate you not kicking me at three minutes you. >> were telling me to cut him off. >> i was. but you didn't, did you? >> if pilpel is speaking as an individual i provided staff to correction to the minutes non substantive and i am not sure if under the office of the city attorney josh wanted to be josh or joshua and they're non substannive and hopefully you will consider them. thanks. >> all those in favor? >> aye. >> opposed? minutes will be adopted. discussion of the executive director's report. >> i don't have any highlights today. we are in a new fiscal year obviously so the report reflects that, and if you didn't get my message earlier i just wanted to point out that today the court of appeal 1st district published its opinion in the lawsuit and found unanimously in favor of the ethics commission. >> jack, you submitted a budget for 4.7 and came out of the mayor's office with 4.5 and across the board of supervisors you got -- [inaudible] >> yes. >> which leaves delta about 132k and i was wondering what were those expenditures and what adjustments did you need to make? >> well, last year we received a more si