mr. plattd not know anything. we had talked a little bit. i remember during one of those talks the chinese were saying, you are still requiring us to be fingerprinted when we go to the united states. we said no, that's finished. they said no, it's not finished. roger said, you go find out. i rush out. there's a white house telephone in the great hall of the people. very discreet. i call up. it's a wonderful connection white house switch. they get me the state department operations center. ok, operations center comes on 3:00 in the morning. i say, wake up whoever is responsible and find me the answer to this question, which they did. then i went back in and roger said to the chinese, we do no longer require that you be fingerprinted, but isn't it good that we have good communications now? [laughter] in any case the nuts and bolts , were being discussed. it was a popular forum because all the people who could not get into a meeting and wanted to take part came and took part. >> they're going to t