mr. podesta. you can run the world with gas. you can do away with nuclear and coal and you can run the world off gas in emerging renewables. renewables and gas are complementary. they are complementary not antithetical and we can drill gas and produce it with new technology so the leaks are held to one-tenth of 1% which means -- with the systems, you can win the carbon war. you can beat climate change and keep the count down to 250 by 2050. you've won the war. my proposition -- i ask you to say if you have an element unlimited amount of gas, what are you going to do with it? how much are you going to use it and how much redundancy of other types of fuels do we need? but this is a transformational event and it needs to be recognized. >> okay. >> i think everybody is going to want to chime in so i will be brief. first of all, it is transformational and the opening remarks that john made how the domestic affects the international vice versa rings true. think about how many winters we read in the press how pipeline issues were causi

mr. podesta -- you can run the world now off gas. you can do it with nuclear and coal. you can run the world on gas and grenoble's. they are complementary. -- theynot necessary are complementary, not analytical. we can produce its of the leaks are held to 0.1%. you can win the carbon more. you can beat climate change and keep the count down to 250 by 2015. you have won the war. if you have an almost unlimited amount of gas, how are you going to recognize it and use it? how much redundancy of other types of fuels to we need? this is a transformational event. it needs to be recognized. >> i think everybody is quick to want to chime in, so i will be brief. first of all, it is transformational. the opening marks about how the domestic affect the international this true. think about how every winter we used to read stories about how pipeline issues were causing security issues across central europe. your premise, a broadly agree with. as our administration has just shown, the kind of discoveries of the resource internationally are also adding another 1600 pcf, or something o