mr. pompeo: some any good answers. so many cameras, yes. rter: pompeo added on a more serious note -- mr. pompeo: if nations believe they can get the security benefit without providing nato what it needs to live up to commitments, there is a risk nato could become ineffective or obsolete. reporter: a reminder there is a price to pay for having the u.s. as partner -- a message heard a loud and clear in the german government. chancellor angela merkel expressed profound gratitude as germany marks 30 years since the fall of the berlin wall. ms. merkel: we will never forget that the united states of america, with its president, george bush, helped and supported us enormous lee on the way to german reunification. mr. pompeo: chancellor merkel has been a great friend of the united states. germany continues to be an enormous lee important partner for us. i saw the defense minister's statement about increasing germany's contribution to nato over time. we think that is powerful because the relationship with nato matters, and we need everyone working t

have that idea that germany and the united states have longstanding historic ties something that mr pompeo clearly reiterating about the same time it is impossible to hide the fact that germany and the united states are not having the best of relationships now on that there are series of issues which where they do not see eye to eye when in the next hours wholeness pohnpei will meet germany's chance and i'm going to michael in but in how do you expect that one to play out. there will probably be difficult topics to discuss ranging from syria to iran from trade to the environment all issues where the united states and germany as i say do not see eye to eye on the other hand i do expect that 2nd element to also be very prominent namely the fact that germany and i did state especially when we're looking at the 30th anniversary of the fall of the berlin wall when we're looking at german reunification the role that the united states played back then so although i do expect them to discuss some of the thorny issues between them i also expect them to discuss some of the issues that actually actua

mr. pompeo ordered her removal the next month. one call between giuliani and pompeo was arranged with guidance from mr. trump's person assistant the document suggests. as we come on the air we're watsing for news in the case that could move don mcgahn closer to cooperating with congress and testifying about his time inside the trump west wing. it's case that could have ramifications for the impeachment inquiry. the crux of bad publicity for all the president's men is where we start today. take us through this blockbuster story that when it landed yesterday, my phone exploded with alerts and texts and e-mails. take us through what you broke about the e-mail exchanges where it looks like mick mulvaney is trying to conjure up some jus justification. >> reporter: that's right. it's great piece of reporting by some of my colleagues. it looks at the efforts by the acting white house chief of staff, mulvaney to come up with an explanation for why the president withheld the aid temporarily from ukraine. this effort was conducted after the

mr. pompeo, mr. bolton, mr. giuliani? why shouldn't those same sentiments beat within their hearts to do their patriotic duty and do what you have done, sir? indeed, why doesn't that same standard apply to the president of the united states? >> i wish i could answer. >> i suspect you can't because there is no good answer. but i do appreciate your willingness to come here today. with that, i yield back, mr. chairman. >> thank you, congressman. mr. jordan. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i ask unanimous consent to enter into record a statement from chief of staff mick mulvaney. >> without objection. we haven't seen all the statements but presume they are accurate and no objection. >> thank you. ambassador, president trump's not a big fan of foreign aid, is that right? >> i don't know if that's a fair characterization. i think he's careful. >> express concerns about foreign aid going to certain countries. fair enough. and he knew ukraine was corrupt, is that right? >> he believed ukraine was corrupt. >> yeah and he wanted europe

mr. pompeo, the secretary of state of the united states, is absolutely rejected and must be condemned. amy: soon after secretary of state mike pompeo announced the new u.s. policy, the u.s. embassy in israel issued a travel warning to americans in israel, the west bank, and gaza. we'll h have more on the israeli settlements and pompeo's announcement after headlines. we'll speak with palestinian human rights attorney and legal scholar noura erakat. on capitol hill, four witnesses are slated to testify today as part of the televised impeachment hearings into whether president trump withheld military aid from ukraine to pressure the ukrainian president to investigate trump's political rival joe biden and his son. this morning congressional lawmakers will hear testimony from lt. col. alexander vindman, the top ukraine expert for the national security council, and jennifer williams, a special adviser to vice president mike pence and a member of his national security council staff. both vindman and williams listened in on the july 25 phone call between between president trump and ukrainian pr

mr. pompeo, mr. bolton, mr. volt, mr. giuliani, why wouldn't those same sentiments be within their hearts to do their patriotic duty and do what you have done, sirteed, whdoesne standard apply to the president of the united states? >> i wish i could answer. suspect you can't because there is no good answer. but i do appreciate your willingness to come here today. with that, i yield back, mr. chairman. >> thank you, congressman. mr. jordan. thank you, i ask yiewp unanimous consent to enter into the record a statement from chief of staff mick mulvaney. >> we haven't seen all the statements but i presume they're accurate and no objection. >> ambassador, president trump is not a big fan of foreign aid, is that right? >> i don't know if that's a fair characterization. i think he's careful. >> he' expressed concerns about foreign aid going to kern certan countries. >> yes. he believed ukraine was corrupt. >> yes. and wanted europe to do more. definitely. and the president had a belief that ukrainian government officials, some s

mr. pompeo said when he first took office. had a chance to read mr. sondland's yet, but i did read mike mckinley's. and it's very clear that mr. pompeo's need to be close to president trump and support him in every way has caused him to give up the integrity that i think is an essential element to being a successful leader. and, you know, i think this whole rolling his eyes and trying to manipulate everything that is said to flatter the president is against the national security interests of the united states. which that is the fundamental function of the state department and the foreign service is as a national security institution. this is the most serious sort of business that the united states has. everything is at stake regarding our effectiveness, our power, our influence, what we can get done in the world. you know, integrity is essential to being successful and i'm afraid he's aber gated any credibility he has. >> is there one word to describe his behavior in regards to sondland here in this transcript and also ambassa

mr pompeo had this to say earlier.alling the establishment of civilian settlements inconsistent with international law hasn't worked or advanced the cause of peace. the hard truth is there will never be a judicial resolution to the conflict and arguments about who is right or wrong as a matter of international law will not bring peace. even before mr pompeo had spoken, the israeli government's public security minister, gilad erdan tweeted... this is the reaction from the palestinians. this is the spokesperson for president abbas. this is the jordanian reaction, from their foreign minister. i suppose it's consistent with what the trump administration has done over the last couple of years. we've seen them decide that jerusalem can be called the capital of israel, be considered the capital of israel. we've also seen, in march of this year, them decide that the golan heights, on occupied land, on land israel captured from syria, also had israeli sovereignty. so i suppose it shouldn't come as a surprise. but it was the way

we are early binny's party and our leader said some days ago that please do to the 1st secretary mr pompeo that lebanese affair and it will stay. benny's affair we are fighting for freedom sure but we are fighting against corruption we are fighting for a new government at technocrat government from specialists without political figures. because their people didn't trust those popular political figures anymore we are in a big shift between. times and the new times are coming we are a little bit afraid that some interventions will destroy this shifting or this or manage it against our purpose do you think us secretary bombero listened to your leader beirut famously historically no cia agents in the city and in the past 48 hours pompei are saying settlements on palestinian land are to be judged illegal by the united states in violation of un resolutions do you think pompei o is on the same page as your party let me be frank with you. directly. united states. lebanon and support the lebanese army but in this case we we want that nobody will interfere in our 'd. most asians because it is not th

speech by mr pompeo on the question and answer session the followed revealed exactly the goal behind his visit on the one hand to stress the call on values that share the united states and germany that they have shared over for a very long time as we just saw in his remarks there but at the same time some of the key differences now were made evidence for example in the issue of trade that was absolutely evident that the united states and germany do not see eye to eye is there so on the one hand you can clearly say that mr compelled had the intention to show those historic ties between the united states and germany but at the same time you can't hide the fact that the united states and germany are facing difficulties and that there are many issues where they do not see eye to eye you know it's quite a long list indeed and we know that later today pompei will meet german chancellor angela merkel and defense minister catherine bow in berlin how do you expect that to play out they will probably have time to discuss old hose issues that we've just been mentioning in fact you know the issu

well the fact that mr pompeo has a personal history here in germany could certainly help improve things but you mentioned terry the key word of this visit namely the fact that it was symbolic it was precisely there to try and show that rolled of the u.s. made in german reunification and the fact that german and u.s. ties are very strong indeed despite the fact that there are very big problems indeed and i would say that those problems are still very much on everyone's minds and whether we're talking about nato whether we're talking about the environment where we're talking about north stream without we're talking about iran whether we're talking about syria there's a long list of topics where germany and the u.s. differ but the goal of mystical impales visit was to try and show that the spike those differences germany and the u.s. do have common values and common goals overall despite the differences now today a home pay a will meet german chancellor angela merkel and defense minister come in berlin how do you expect that to play out well it will probably play out much in the same line

mr. pompeo in mid august about a draft statement that mr.ondland and another american diplomat had worked on with the ukrainians that they hoped would persuade mr. trump to grant ukraine's new president the oval office meeting he was seeking. later that month mr. sondland discuss with mike pompeo the disc -- the possibility of pushing the ukrainian president to pledge during a planned meeting with trump in warsaw that he would take the steps being sought by trump as a way to break that logjam. mr. pompeo expressed his approval of the plan but mr. trump later canceled his trip to poland. expect more questions today to gordon sondland about those aspects of the timeline and who knew what and when. greg in south carolina, republican. you are next. are you with us this morning? caller: good morning. thank you for taking michael. -- taking my call. that always seems to touch base with me is have you ever noticed that when it gets to voting, the democrats restrict the democrats, republicans are republicans. how is it that nobody can jump either si

the statement of mr pompeo, the secretary of the state of the united states has been absolutely rejected undermine international law, once they become an administration that is pro— israeli occupation, pro— israeli war crimes, this constitutes a major threat to international peace and security. and our north america editorjon sopel has more on the implications this could have on the peace efforts in the middle east. the timing is bizarre, no new israeli government has been formed so israeli government has been formed so why has mike pompeo announced this now? who is this to help? donald trump's first overseas trip was to the middle east, and to israel hani visited the west bank, and he said this will be the greatest deal that i could possibly pull off, tasked his son—in—law to be the person to do that, and we awaited this peace process, peace plan, to be unveiled but since donald trump has been president, we have had the announcement that the us embassy is moving from tel aviv tojerusalem, the us embassy is moving from tel aviv to jerusalem, the golan us embassy is moving from tel aviv t

mr. pompeo, secretary perry, bryan mccormick, and mr. mulvaney senior adviser. ambassad ambassador taylor, volker, every one was in the loop. >> every one in the loop. every one put on blast. every one accused under oath. if this seems like a big and unusual deal, a watergate level thing, it is. they are scrambling. if you were put on blast like that. if you were accused by a colleague, if your e malgs we-m provided, whether or not you marched down and testify, you would want the clear this up. do you have to deny the bribery allegations, right? this is new. take a look at secretary of state pompeo and how he's dealing with it. >> mr. secretary -- >> you've heard of non-denial denials. that's just no denial whateverso ever. perry did go on fox news. he's making a different claim and we want to play this because there's always if there is a claim, if there a denial, if there's something, well, we got to hear it. you got to hear it. we'll play it for you. i have to know what you're about to hear was already contradicted under both by ambassador sondland. >> not on

mr. pompeo, mr. bolton, mr. giuliani. why shouldn't those same sentiments be within their hearts to do their patriotic duty and do what you have done, sir? indeed, why doesn't that same standard apply to the president of the united states? >> i wish i could answer. >> i suspect you can't because there is no good answer but i appreciate your willingness to come here today. with that, i yelled back, mr. chairman. >> mr. jordan. >> i ask unanimous consent to enter into the record a statement from mick mulvaney. >> we haven't seen all the statements but i presume they are accurate and no objections. >> ambassador, president trump is not a big fan of foreign aid. >> i don't know that's a fair characterization. i think he's careful. >> foreign aid going to certain countries. he knew ukraine was corrupt. >> he believed ukraine was corrupt. >> he wanted europe to do more. >> definitely. >> the president had a belief that ukrainian governmen governt officials supported his opponent in 2016. there was one member of parliament is th

mr. pompeo who resigns in protest. because he feels not enough is being done to provide backing to career diplomats. diplomats were being used to carry domestic political gains of the president through foreign policy. again some, interest iing deposition from mike mckinley. >> this is just the beginning of it. we're going to continue on. dana bash is our cnn chief political correspondent. and kevin carroll worked under trump. so good to have you all on. i have about a gazillion questions. your biggest key takeaway from the transcripts? >> this is the beginning of the realization from the ambassador that was there, there was some -- in her words a shadow foreign policy. a shadow diplomacy going on. and that that was apparently ah, cording to her testimony. and mckinley sort of backs that that up, that is because there was a political interest by giuliani and other allies of the president to align themselves with people in ukraine who according to yovanovitch were trying to play them by suggesting that things went on in

mr. pompeo, mr. mulvaney and john bolton, the president's former national security adviser. any new reporting on any of those individuals and their posture toward the impeachment proceeding? >> no. but from those group of people, especially pompeo, you saw pushback today. you saw them trying to refute what sondland was saying and put as much distance between him and the administration as possible. pompeo coming out and saying in a statement that he put out on his plane that any implication that he talked to sondland about the fact that the aide was linked to the investigations is not true. now, we went back and looked at the transcript and it's not entirely clear that sondland said that exactly. what sondland was saying that was the aide had been basically -- not the aide but sondland is basically saying that pompeo knew about the statement that they were trying to get the ukrainians to put out. he knew about another effort they were trying to do with the ukrainian president. but sort of as much as possible today you saw mike pence putting out a statement that pushed back on

mr. pompeo, and others have to say. >> melissa: and mr. giuliani. >> donna: mr.liani, my god, how can i forget? >> harris: i think we know what he's going to say. >> donna: he's the real elephant in the room. when ambassador sondland said everyone was in the loop, that is huge. i think that sticks with me more than anything else. everyone was in the loop. >> jason: are you going to believe that, or are you going to believe what gordon sondland said when he spoke with the president and he said he didn't want anything? i think the evidence is probably the most relevant. back to her point, melissa, it was earlier that nancy pelosi said that the only validity for moving forward with impeachment would be if you have bipartisan support. they don't have a single republican at this point. >> melissa: in terms of him saying everything in the loop, that was powerful. he was also asked if anyone at all, anyone on the planet, ever told him that it was this for this. that there was a quid pro quo. he said, "no one ever said that." >> katie: including the president. >> melissa

mr. pompeo's need to be close to president trump and support him in every way has caused him to give up the integrity that i think is an essential element to being a successful leader. i'm afraid that secretary pompeo has abrogated any claim that he has to being a leader of integrity. >> a lot to get to in the hour ahead. i want to begin with the breaking news in the impeachment inquiry. i want to bring in max smith and frank bruni. max, i want to start with you because i want to get your reaction to this breaking news that's in "the washington post" saying that president trump wanted bill barr to hold a press conference saying that he broke no laws when it came to this ukraine call but bar declined. what was he thinking? >> well, when you get to the point, don, where bill barr will not defend donald trump, that's a sign the situation is really, really bad because if there's one thing that bill barr has done since taking over as attorney general, it is defend donald trump, and we saw him carrying trump's water when the mueller report came out and offering a very untruthful and deceitful sum

mr. pompeo pulling that off? >> this has certainly been widely rumored for a while. he has made a number of trips back to kansas. he has certainly done very little to try to tamp down the speculation that he might want to do this. this comes amid reports of some real increased tension between pompeo and the president. he's sort of been the president's favorite cabinet member for the most part in recent months, but now according to some reporting, the president is blaming him for this parade of diplomats and state department officials who have come up and testified in the impeachment probe. he thinks that pompeo should have tried to effectively stop that or should have hired different people. let's remember most of these are pompeo hires, including bill taylor. >> at least he hasn't -- he had an opportunity to defend the other day and didn't. as a final note, the state department tonight has put out a statement saying there's nothing to this. the secretary is staying in the job. in fact, i think he's in brussels right now ahead of some meetings tomorrow. but this stor

mr. pompeo doing that? >> he has done very little to try to tamp down the speculation that he might want to do this. this comes amid reports of some real increased tension between pompeo and the president. he's sort of been the president's favorite cabinet member for the most part in recent months, but according to some reporting, some are blaming him for the state department officials who have come up and testified in the impeachment probe. he thinks pompeo should have effectively stopped that or hired different people. most of these are pompeo hires. >> at least he hasn't defended them. >> you're right. he had that opportunity. the state department has put out a note saying there is nothing to this. the secretary of state stayed on the job. i believe he is in brussels right now ahead of some meetings tomorrow but this story is not going away any time soon. >> i reckon we'll find out what the people of kansas feel about it before too long. jeremy bash, elizabesabeth bumi. our thanks to the three of you at

mr. pompeo isn't standing up for them. isn't speaking for them.y. and, frankly, they are a little surprised by that because when he came in on the heels of rex tillerson, there was great hope and he came in and did really improve morale with some things he did, policies he put in place to improve the lives and the careers of career foreign service officers and their families. so i think there's deep disappointment over the fact he's been so silent about standing up for these career officials. >> the department of swagger, his term. >> that's . >> to jim's point, this doesn't appear to be the only time that there is a major gap between what pompeo has said on television and then what has been learned. so you will remember during the interview on abc, another one with martha raddatz, he had this to say about the ukraine call before we learned that he was actually on the call. here it is. >> the "wall street journal" is reporting that president trump pressed the president of ukraine eight times to work with rudy giuliani to investigate joe biden's so

mr. pompeo keeps defending. >> i was on the call. i listened to it.consistent with what president trump has been trying to do, to take corruption out. i found that to be wholly appropriate to try and get another country to stop being corrupt. >> joining me now is john ganz, a former speech writer for the pentagon, now at the university of pennsylvania whose new book is "white house warriors, how the national security council transformed the way of war." amy, you are in touch with a lot of former diplomats, former secretaries of state. you coauthored a book with condoleezza rice. i am hearing so much pushback from the diplomatic current, current and retired, about the way secretary pompeo has handled this. there was arrival after rex tillerson and so much disappointment or people calling him an enabler of donald trump. >> andrea, you are right. when pompeo became secretary, there was a lot of euphoria, he was talking about bringing swagger back and high expectations because he had a good relationship with the president. what we are seeing with this inq

mr. pompeo is facing a revolt in the state department.s plummeted and letting the president's personal agenda affect foreign policy. he's done more to damage the 75,000 person agency than even his predecessor rex tillerson viled by employees. the table is back. >> tillerson now does look a little better by comparison, but the analogy i would make is that, what separates the united states from autocratic countries is our institutions. we have institutions that we try to protect. tillerson tried to protect the state department as much as he didn't hire people, when he quarreled with trump and when he was pushed out, it was because he was protecting the equities of the state department. pompeo, no. pompeo is, i am like your lackey. i've got the 75,000 person agency under me. i'm going to do your bidding and that's just soul destroying and bad for the republic. >> it's bad for his brand too. i'm not sure go run for the senate. trump is genius at turning all of his warts and crimes into assets. that does not translate or transfer to someone li

mr. pompeo has done more damage to the 75,000 person agency the state department and even his predecessorllerson. ambassador, he's worse tan tillerson, this is going downhill. >> i think this is going to be a tough race. i think in the end what really really gets to the career diplomats is not standing behind peel when they're doing their job. and so, even if they may have disagreed with a policy aspec or you know not thought something was in the best interest, 99.9% of the time they sa lite lute and do what they're asked by a secretary of state. but you have a state department right now where people are uncomfortable with decisions for personal political gain or for things they think are against international law. >> u.n. ambassador of mexico, our ambassador, was there ever a chance they were going to pay for the wall? >> no. >> thank you. >> ambassador roberta jacobson, i thought i'd love to get on the record, thank you. coming up, republicans are twisting themselves into almost comical knots trying to put a benign face on ambassador sondland's damming reversal of testimony. maybe there

mr. pompeo's face and were both in the state department, confidence in his leadership has plummeted arounds. what can you say in response? >> one of the things i can say is the people that the secretary has empowered around him are career foreign service officers and he's put them in very high positions of leadership in the department, most of the people that i work with on a daily basis are in the foreign service and these are people that i worked with not in just this it administration but in the obama and in the bush administration administration's, where he also worked in national security, so i'm encouraged by the people around the secretary that are in these senior positions, he has sought to do many things in the year and a half he spent secretary of state, including lifting them hiring freeze and getting more people in the foreign service and getting more people appointed to these senior positions within the state department. there was a while where junior people were not even coming into the foreign service and he restarted those classes. i think he is an incredibly effective lead

white house correspondent kimberly hell could complete what's your reading of these comments from mr pompeo. yeah well the reading is well let me talk about the statement 1st because the tweet that he put out in the last hour or so really is the 2nd part of a broader statement that the state department put out peter just a little bit longer than that ago he says in this statement that iran's latest nuclear escalations reflect the regime's intentions all along to extort the international community into accepting violence and terror well it undermines the sovereignty of its neighbor so these statements coming out as the secretary of state is in germany commemorating the fall of the berlin wall so the timing is is strategic these positioned in the inside europe where he's obviously trying to send a message to allies there who have at times had some very strong views about the united states' position particularly when it comes to pulling out of the 2050 nuclear agreement to limit iran's nuclear activities so strategic there and you have to remember too that this comes just 3 days after the secr

and pompeo replied yes. >> and quite early on, mr.te house and the state department when he indicates i've had hundreds of meetings and calls with individuals but i am not a note taker never have been. backup materials about his conversations yet these materials were not provided to me. they have also refused to share these materials with this committee. these documents are not classified and, in fairness, should have been made available. >> let's go back to ed luce. we just heard a ridiculous defense of the president, that he was too stupid to understand what he was requesting of the lieutenant colonel. you could make a montage, 20-minute montage of all the idiotic defenses the republicans have trotted out over the past several weeks and several months actually. and this testimony today, in this opening statement, you have ambassador sondland, a man who contributed $1 million to donald trump and is a trumpist from day one. you have ambassador sondland ripping every one of the republican strongmen to shreds. >> one can only imagine de

mr. pompeo, ?r. bolton, mr. giuliani why don't they do their patriotic duty and do what you have done, sir? why doesn't matt same standard applied to the president of the united states? >> i wish i could answer it. >> i suspect you cannot because there is no good answer, but i do appreciate your willingness to come here today. with that, i yield back. >> thank you, congressman. >> i have unanimous consent to enter into the record a statement from mick mulvaney. >> ambassador, president trump .s not a big fan of foreign aid in the president had a belief that ukrainian government officials supported his opponent in 2016. ofhink there is one member parliament who said the majority of ukrainian politicians want hillary clinton to win, so he had that believe as well, and obviously he understood what was happening. we got a brand-new guy in ukraine. the zelensky guy wins. the party takes over and president trump wants to see, with all these other things that are of concern to him, he wants to see that this new guy is

mr. pompeo, mr. bolton, mr. giuliani, why shouldn't those same sentiments beat within their hearts to do what you have done, sir. indeed why doesn't that same standard apply to the president of the united states? >> i wish i could answer. >> i suspect you can't because there's no good answer. but i do appreciate your willingness to come here today. with that, i yield back, mr. chairman. >> thank you, congressman. >> mr. jordan. >> i ask to enter into the record a statement from mick mulvaney. >> we haven't seen these statements but presume they are accurate. president trump is not a big fan of foreign aid. is that right? >> i don't know if if it's a fan of foreign aid. he knew kain cain was rupt. is that right? >> he believed ukraine was corrupt. >> and wanted europe to do more. gr definitely. >> the president had to believe that ukrainian government official, some senior officials supported his opponent in 2016. a member of parliament said a mamgty of mojority of politicia hillary clinton to win. he understood

mr. pompeo, mr. bolton, mr. giuliani, why shouldn't those same sentiments beat within their hearts to do what you have done, sir. indeed why doesn't that same standard apply to the president of the united states? >> i wish i could answer. >> i suspect you can't because there's no good answer. but i do appreciate your willingness to come here today. with that, i yield back, mr. chairman. >> thank you, congressman. >> mr. jordan. >> i ask to enter into the record a statement from mick mulvaney. >> we haven't seen these statements but presume they are accurate. president trump is not a big fan of foreign aid. is that right? >> i don't know if if it's a fan of foreign aid. he knew kain cain was rupt. is that right? >> he believed ukraine was corrupt. >> and wanted europe to do more. gr definitely. >> the president had to believe that ukrainian government official, some senior officials supported his opponent in 2016. a member of parliament said a mamgty of mojority of politicia hillary clinton to win. he understood

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mr. pompeo may leave office. he's looking at the politics of kansas.trump, whether democratic or republican president, how do we begin to get back to state department not -- state department normalcy? richard: you need a serious interagency process. you need to re-staff the state department. you probably have to bring in some experienced people and the lateral way but you also have to believe in diplomacy. with north korea we just can't be repeating the mantra of denuclearization. same thing with iran, with china. why don't we have a real strategic dialogue? why don't we talk with china about areas of cooperation like climate change? like afghanistan? korea.omise on north in an anonymous potential agenda to size need to start addressing. tom: ambassador, thank you for joining us today at the new economy forum. i want to bring your attention to a headline just raking. jon ferro today, china will resort to flood style strong stimulus. this is bloomberg. ♪ everyone uses their phone differently. that's why xfinity mobile lets you design your own data. you

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mr. pompeo is essentially in hiding for -- protect himself while subordinates took the hit.timonies, evidently -- what is character? difficult to define, but as national public radio's scott simon recently noted, a short summary in the u.s., a cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do." wow, kevin, what an essay. tell me where the secretary of state fits into the mix of the impeachment ballet in washington. kevin: several state department officials have testified behind closed doors to the investigative impeachment inquiry committees that are looking into this. from the secretary of state's perspective come he would argue he has been continuing to do in full as it relates to the cease-fire in northern syria and also as it leads to withdrawing from the paris climate accord. he has not been formally called to testify, so i think from his perspective, he has a job to do even as the impeachment inquiry is going. tom: well said. let me go to the gossip of the moment, running for kansas office. is this what is really -- is this what this is really about? him, inte

secretary of state mike pompeo, mr.ecretary, thanks for being with us. >> it's great to be with you. lou: i would like to begin if i may with the intelligence committee hearings and its chair adam schiff. do you believe the hearings are legitimate and appropriate? >> sphwrt beginning i have been unhappy. officers from the state department have had to testify without counsel and without having the chance to prepare. we couldn't have counsel in the room. i regret that. i wish things were open and fair and a process that reflected what the american people deserve. lou: administration having to contend with all the external forces when running into what these intelligence committee hearings represent. it has to be a difficult distraction. today iran announcing it's running twice as many centrifuges as would have been permitted under the 2015 agreement. they continue according to your department's report to fund terrorism, hezbollah, hamas, the palestinian islamist jihad. are sanctions really working? >> this is precisely wh

mr. pompeo, mr. bolton, mr. vogue, mr. giuliani?n't those same sentiments beat within their hearts to do their patriotic duty and do what you have done, sir? indeed, why doesn't that same standard apply to the president of the united states? >> i wish i could answer. >> i suspect you can't, because there is no good answer, but i do appreciate your willingness to come here today. with that i yield back, mr. chairman. >> thank you, congressman. mr. jordan. >> thank you. i ask unanimous connect to enter into the record statement from chief of staff mick mulvaney. >> without objection. we haven't seen all the statements but presume they are accurate and no objection. >> thank you. ambassador, president trump's not a big fan of foreign aid. is is that right? i don't know if that's a fair characterization. i think he's careful. >> expressed concerns about foreign aid in certain countries. fair enough. >> yes. >> and knew ukraine was corrupt. is that right? >> he believed ukraine was corrupt. >> and wanted europe to do more? >> definitely.

barry rosen was one of them and he just met with secretary of state mike pompeo. mr.en, thanks for taking the time to talk to us. it's been 38 years now since he went through that nightmare and it was the end of it, 38 years. what effect do anniversaries like this one have on you and your view of things? >> more than anything else, it brings back memories that are, i think, profoundly unhappy. the misery that we went through for 444 days somehow comes to me at any moment of the day. i actually don't like february, you know, the date of the hostage crisis. i just don't want to see it in my minds eye. at all. >> brit: on a normal day when this is not in the news or otherwise something you'd be paying attention to, how are you affected by what you went through in a normal day? >> in a normal day, i think there are moments when i can sit down and think about how did i live through this situation? the misery was extreme. the punishment was more than anyone can take. the psychological trauma was impossible. >> brit: would you have been able to imagine, sir, before you under

mr. giuliani to secretary pompeo, secretary perry, brian mccormick, chief of staff mulvaney, and mr. mulvaney's senior adviser, rob blair. everyone was in the loop. >> ambassadors volker and sondland and secretary rick perry also attended a meeting i attended with dr. hill. we have not completed the agenda items and we still had time for the meeting and ambassador bolton abruptly ended the meeting. >> he said i am not part of whatever drug deal that mulvaney and sondland are cooking up. he then said that rudy giuliani was a hand grenade that was going to blow everyone up. >> my recollection is that ambassador sondland stated, quote, damn it, rudy, every single time rudy gets involved he goes and effs everything up. he said, quote, damn it, every time rudy gets involved, he effs everything up. >> one of those key figures being discussed, john bolton, and he has gone public in a way, kind of. he made clear being back on twitter this week via a twitter post. he claims the white house had kept him off the platform. let's bring in our panel. joyce vance, natasha bertrand, andrew carny and